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The Powers Behind Alpha, Vineyard & the ‘TE’
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the chart entitled
The Dragnet Behind
Alpha, Vineyard, ‘Purpose-Driven’, ‘
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This page currently comprises the following three sections: Introduction 1) Extra Links Omitted From Chart 2) How To Use The Table of Links 3) Table of Links Between Names IntroductionSome of the links in the table are included
because someone has quoted another person favourably. The 'acceptability' of quoting idolaters is
invariably based on the solitary occasion when the apostle Paul, speaking at
the Areopagus, quoted a pagan poet (Acts It is bad enough to cite idolaters as sources of
wisdom for Christians. (Can
people really not find any Christian sources for the points they want to
make?) It is even worse to fail to give
a warning and disclaimer about that person’s idolatry. 1) Extra Links Omitted From Chart The following are known links that had to be omitted from the chart for topological or readability reasons. Data for each of these links is included in the table below.
There are many further instances of influence/co-operation that have only occurred after 1992 (so far as we can determine). Please see the full table below for details. Notes: *Any links in the following
table which do not appear on the chart itself, nor in the above table, are
given in black and/or italics (see below for more). Any lack of strong connections can therefore
be ignored for these entries. * * * Black, non-italic = no pre-1992 connections of any type, but at
least one direct POST-1992 connection. * Black italic = only INDIRECT, POST-1992 connections found so
far. * We do know of probable
additional links, but the evidence we have collected for them is not yet
conclusive enough. Although the data for
these probable links is included in the table below, we will not add the
relevant arrow to the chart (or the above table) until sufficient further
evidence is found. * We have included some solid indirect
connection data in the table in support of direct connections, and this
subsidiary data is clearly marked ‘INDIRECT’. * Connections that are known to
have taken place after 1992 are also included (clearly marked
‘POST-1992’) to show that this ungodly alliance is still very much in place. * We are in the process of
adding data for the various connections between each name (especially extant
ones) and HTB/Alpha. See the entries
‘[Name] ==>> Alpha’ for the data we have added thus far. 2) How To Use The Table of Links From the chart, pick a link in which you are interested. Identify which bubble includes the start of the relevant arrow. Read the text in the bubble and simply find that name on the far left hand side in the following, alphabetically arranged list. You will be presented with the topmost entries of all the links that start from that name. Simply scroll through the list of links until you find the particular one you are interested in. There you will find all connections we currently know of between the two names. (Please Note: The names in the table are always listed alphabetically. Please also beware of the accent on the end of Renovaré when searching this page electronically. Please also note that INDIRECT links can be found through looking at the data linking intermediate bubbles between two names.) 3) Table of Links Between Names As far as we are aware, NONE of these connections came with caveats. For example, we have yet to note a single name on the chart who repudiates any aspect of the ministry of another name when quoting that other name. We define the difference between cooperation and association as follows: Attending a conference as an observer, where one of the speakers is apostate is one thing. Sharing the platform with him/her and failing to expose them for what they are, is quite another! Quoting them is one thing. Giving their NAME, but no disclaimer about their other beliefs is another. Notes: (a) These are just the overt or undeniable links - how many extra, hidden ones are there? (b) In many cases the primary source reference is available from the cited source. (c) Critics of this table may be able to find a handful of links they believe to be arguable, but, even if they do so, that will still leave over 95% for them to explain away. (d) All emphases are our own unless otherwise stated. (e) Where you see “linked to HTB”, please see the extra table at the end of this page for details. We hope shortly to provide some biographies - to show just how amazingly unchristian the names in this list are. In the meantime, you can find out about these people from websites like: www.deceptioninthechurch.com/page3.html or www.banner.org.uk or www.gospelcom.net/aplogeticsindex. And, for certain people in the chart, www.letusreason.org/Popteach.htm (for Schuller and Copeland), www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes (for Copeland, Hagin and Wimber), www.cultlink.com/archives.htm (for the Sandfords), http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/branham.htm (for Branham), and http://www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/robert.htm (for Schuller). Please note, however, that we do not necessarily endorse everything on these sites or even on the pages listed here.
Assagioli, Roberto
[Click here for details of this name] Assagioli ==>> Alpha ■
INDIRECT: HTB cooperates with Willow Creek, yet the former
associate director of spiritual formation at Willow Creek trained at Shalem Prayer
Institute and has Tilden Edwards on the back cover of her most recent book -
both of these have Assagioli’s strong influence [Data from Lighthouse Trails]. ■ INDIRECT, POSSIBLY
POST-1992: HTB stocks the book Ruthless
Trust by Brennan Manning. This is a
book which positively cites Gerald May - who promotes Assagioli’s teachings. Assagioli
==>> Foster,
R./Renovaré ■
“[Tilden] Edwards leads the prestigious Shalem Prayer Institute [where
Renovare’s William Vaswig studied]... In his book, Spiritual Friend, he [Edwards]
suggests those who practice contemplative prayer ... should turn to a book
entitled, Psychosynthesis, ... [by] world
famous occultist, Roberto Assagioli” [Ray Yungen, A Time of Departing,
{p}]. ■
INDIRECT: Madeleine L’Engle
was influenced by Assagioli, but Renovare quotes L’Engle very positively
[Renovare’s Perspective magazine, April 1997 - Vol. 7, No. 2 - page
4]. Madeleine L’Engle is also quoted favourably on Page
205 of the 25th Anniversary Edition of Foster’s book Celebration
of Discipline [J. Sundquist]. ■
INDIRECT:
Gerald
May, who influenced Renovare’s Vaswig, wrote a book called A Pilgrimage of
Healing which was full of Assagioli’s transpersonal psychology [Ray Yungen,
phone conversation with Dusty, 2004].
May was “one of Rev. Vaswig’s professors”
[http://withchrist.org/MJS/renovare.htm].
It is MOST likely that May will have taught Vaswig about Assagioli. ■
“[A]n
Esalen team visited Europe ... and discovered Roberto Assagioli’s
psychosynthesis, ... This group then introduced Assagioli’s work to America.
... [At Esalen’s] second conference on “The Body and Spirituality” ...
[participated] Sister Rose Mary Dougherty [a leader at the Shalem Institute
where Renovare’s Vaswig studied] { } ■
INDIRECT: Assagioli strongly influenced Michael Murphy
and others at Esalen (Murphy was a co-founder), and Esalen has strongly
influenced Renovare (hence the latter’s endorsement of the Enneagram system
devised by Esalen) { } ■
Gerald May is “number 2” at the Shalem Institute where Renovaré’s Vaswig studied,
yet May makes extremely positive reference to Assagioli’s psychosynthesis
movement [Ray Yungen, private phone conversation with Dusty]. Assagioli ==>> Fox, G./Quakers ■ The Friends website
http://fcrp.quaker.org/ contains pro-Assagioli material. See for instance the ‘Views and Reviews’ in
its magazine Inward Light, Vol XLVII, Nos. 101 and 102, Spring 1986 (as
at http://fcrp.quaker.org/InwardLight101/101Reviews.html). Assagioli
==>> Kelsey,
M. ■ “Morton … tells us himself that one of his
major influences was ‘the writings of … Roberto Assagioli’” [Morrison, op.
cit., p433].
Assagioli ==>> Schuller, R. ■ INDIRECT:
Gerald Jampolsky wrote “one of the groundbreaking classics in the
transpersonal movement … Based on concepts from A Course in Miracles”.
Schuller has run A Course in
Miracles and was endorsing Jampolsky as recently as 2004. Bertolucci, John
[Click here for details of this name] Bertolucci
==>> Alpha ■ INDIRECT: Bertolucci has cooperated
with Yonggi-Cho – who has influenced HTB [{}]. ■ INDIRECT: Bill Bright has influenced Alpha, yet “Speakers from Catholicism,
mainline Protestant denominations and independent churches broke down the walls
… at the Washington For Jesus Rally in
Bertolucci ==>> Kuhlman, K. ■
Bertolucci appeared on K's TV
program. The details are: video “V480
457 4/17/75” was of “Father J. Bertolucci. Same as V1074”.
Audio tape “T1734 1975” is of “Father J. Bartolucci, [sic] TV 457. 883” {} Bertolucci
==>> Scanlan, M. ■ “[Jerry] Falwell was also one of the
speakers at the 4/80 ‘ ■
Bertolucci “is the author of several
books, including Prayers and Blessings for Daily Life in Christ
(with Fr. Michael Scanlan, TOR)”
[http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/707010/posts?page=22#22]. Bertolucci ==>> Wimber, J.
(/Vineyard) ■ “I studied leaders like … Father John
Bertolucci” [Wimber, Power Evangelism, p124,
quoted in Dager, The Vineyard, p14]. ■ POST-1992: “I
had the pleasure off [sic] attending the Charismatic Conference in ■ Bertolucci is listed in the
‘Acknowledgments’ for Wimber’s book Power
Healing. Boehme, Jakob /Leade, Jane
[Click here for details of these names] Boehme/Leade
==>> Alpha ■ INDIRECT: Gumbel quotes ■ INDIRECT: Gumbel quotes Paul Tillich
approvingly in Questions of Life [p21],
but Tillich “borrowed ideas from” Boehme
[www.geometry.net/philosophers/boehme_Jacob_page_no_4.php]. Boehme/Leade ==>> Branham,
W. / LR ■ “The supposed, ‘Father of the Latter Rain’
George R. Hawtin (deceased) had a 32-volume set of journals he wrote from
1960-1982. I have every volume and Jane Leade’s prophecies are in there and
they are used by Hawtin as well as George H. Warnock, Bill Britton, Rick
Joyner, Clayt [sic] Sonmore, to proof-text the
MSOG/NOLR doctrine. They, I know, have simply plagiarized Boehme and Leade’s
writings.” [Researcher in ■ “Jane Leade’s
1619/1679 (false) prophetic article is found verbatim in Hawtin's writings ...
[See] Hawtin, George R. ‘The New Attitude’ in Treasures of Truth: Here is the Mind That Hath Wisdom, Vol 9, pp.
103-106. Treasures of
Truth, ■
The books of the central Latter Rainer, George Hawtin, include lengthy
excerpts from the writings of Boehme and Leade [Researcher in ■
INDIRECT: Royal Cronquist’s widow admitted in a phone call to U.S. researcher
[above] that Royal knew FROM HIS COLLEGE DAYS that the NOLR was based on the
doctrines and teachings of Jane Leade! (Cronquist knew the Latter Rainer George
Warnock “quite well”) [Phonecall to Darlene Cronquist,
May 29th 2003]. ■ “I have
… copies of letters from Warnock stating that he knew about Jane Leade and
believed her prophetic declarations were genuinely from God for the times we
are living in” [Researcher in U.S., email
on file]. Boehme/Leade ==>> Fox, G. /Quakers ■ “Fox and the Quakers espoused Boehme’s
alchemistical and astrological cosmology” [Researcher in ■ “Jakob Boehme –
German mystic and theosophist who founded modern theosophy; influenced George
Fox (1575-1624)” [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Jakob%20Boehme]. ■ “Fox was one of those who were influenced by
Boehme” [http://.gospelcom.net.chi/DAILYF/2002/04/daily-04-24-2002.shtml]. ■ “Jacob Boehme’s Books were the chief books
that the Quakers bought, for there is the Principle of Foundation of their
Religion.” A Looking Glass for George Fox,
1667, p. 5. [quoted by
www.bartleby.com/219/1203.html]. Also, “This
passage [by Fox] which records a striking personal experience is undated. It is
strangely like an experience of the great German mystic, Jacob Boehme, whose
works were published in ■ “Boehme was highly influential on subsequent
thinkers, including … George Fox”
[http://www.hermetic.com/sabazius/boehme.htm]. ■ “For the influence of Boehme on Fox … see
studies in Mystical Religion,
pp494-5; cf., also, Fox’s Journal for
1648, 8th ed., vol.I, pp28-9, with Boehme’s Three Principles, cap. XX,
§§ 39-42; also, life of J. B.
in “Law’s edition,” vol. I, p. xiii, or the Signatura
Rerum.” [www.bartelby.com/219/1203.html].
Boehme/Leade ==>> Freemasons ■ “Boehme’s teachings were also influential in
the development of high grade Freemasonry” [http://www/hermetic.com/sabazius/boehme.htm]. Boehme/Leade ==>> Hall, F. ■ “Franklin Hall plagiarized Jane Leade’s
prophecies” [Reseacher in Boehme/Leade ==>> Jung, C. ■ Jung positively cited Boehme dozens of times in his
works. [Donivan Bessinger, Index of
citations of Jakob Boehme in the Collected Works of Carl G. Jung, http://users.aol.com/DoniBess/boehjung.htm]. ■
“[I]t
was in Jung’s writings that I discovered the rare letter written from John
Pordage (1607-1681) to Jane Leade (1623-1704) explaining ... how to alter her
state of consciousness” [Researcher in
Boehme/Leade
==>> Schuller,
R. ■
INDIRECT:
Grubb was a huge fan of Boehme, yet Grubb appeared with Schuller on the latter’s
‘Hour of Power’ show in about 1991.
Schuller called Grubb “a living legend” and, in an interview of Grubb,
Schuller neither expressed nor showed any problem whatsoever with what Grubb
was saying [www.normangrubb.com]. Branham, William /LR
[Click here for details of this name]
Branham/LR ==>> Cain, P. /KCP ■ Paul Cain’s mentor was William Branham
[Roger Oakland, op. cit., p77]. ■ Cain was part of the
‘Latter Rain’ group of the mid 20th
century [{}]. ■ “As a young man in
the 1950s, Cain toured the country with William Branham” [Hilborn, op.
cit., p9]. ■ “Cain once called
Branham ‘The greatest prophet who EVER lived in any of my generations’” [Hank Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival,
(Word, 1997), p134]. ■ “I know that our Lord has been very gracious to us this week, ... I want to say that a young minister, Mr. Cain, I believe it’s, if I’m not mistaken, Paul Cain, is going to continue the revival on, beginning tomorrow night at the regular time, I guess, of seven-thirty. You’re all accordingly invi—cordially invited out to Brother Cain’s meeting ... I pray that it’ll continue on and on as Brother Cain and these other ministers are ministering ... I pray Thee, Father, to be with Brother Cain as he ministers on here in this platform” [W. Branham, ‘Believe Ye That I Can Do This?’, nathan.co.za]. ■
Cain became Branham’s understudy [Bill Jackson, The Quest for the Radical
Middle, p182]. ■
Vineyard admits that the “parallels between [the LR] and Paul Cain’s message to
the Vineyard” are “striking” [ ■
“For
quite a while I have been embarrassed to say anything about the latter rain,
because you are associated and identified with something that people don’t seem
to appreciate in certain evangelical circles. So I have played it cool and
haven’t said much about it. But I don’t care what they think any more... I believe we are going to have the latter rain and I am looking
forward to it” (Paul Cain, Toronto church on May 28, 1995) [DITC website]. ■
Bickle says “there have been a lot of ANOINTED people who came to hold strange
doctrines. Their constituency bought into the false assumption that a person
whom GOD uses in a GENUINE prophetic or healing ministry must be 100%
doctrinally correct. The most notable example in recent history is William
Branham” Bickle, Growing in the Prophetic, p72 – italics in original]. ■
POSSIBLY POST-1992: Bickle writes: “A prophet of the stature similar to those
in the Old Testament would face incredible temptations and pressures.
William Branham’s prophetic ministry … was so unique that he came to be revered
by some on a level with the Old Testament prophets Elijah and Elisha … Branham
himself, wanting to be a teacher [instead of staying a prophet!], ended up
promoting certain heresies [as if his ministry had previously been
sound!].” Bickle then goes on to
strongly indicate he sees Branham as one of God’s “prophetic people” and as a
“prophet”, rather than as a FALSE prophet, and merely that “doctrinal errors …
developed … at the END of his life” [Growing in the Prophetic, p118]. Branham/LR ==>>
Copeland, K. /Hagin, K. ■ Hagin
ministered “in the circles of … Branham”[McConnell
, op. cit., p60] and was “heavily influenced by his peers, …
[including] William Branham” [McConnell, op. cit., p69]. ■ Branham naturally
supported Hagin’s ‘prosperity’ teaching [Hilborn, op. cit., p10]. ■ McConnell, op.
cit., also shows the influence of OTHER Latter-Rain leaders on Hagin! {} ■ Hagin and Copeland are central to the Word-Faith movement which “coexisted with, and grew out of the Latter Rain movement ... [It also] tends to ... hold to the primary doctrines put forward by William Branham ... [M]ost leaders in this [WoF] movement uphold Branham as a man of God or prophet” [Tom and Sheila Smith, op. cit.]. ■ “[B]oth Kenneth Copeland and
Kenneth Hagin point to T.L. Osborn and William
Branham as true men of God who greatly influenced their lives and ministries”
[Hank Hanegraaff, CRI STATEMENT DC755-1, ‘WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE FAITH MOVEMENT
(Part One)’, www.equip.org/free/DC755-1.htm]. ■ INDIRECT: “RHB [a product of Hagin’s Rhema Schools] praises Branham as a great man of God, and the Latter Rain movement as a move of the spirit” [www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4948/vine3is5.html]. ■ “Kenneth Hagin claims
that Branham’s prophecies and thought reading were absolutely accurate ...
[A]fter Branham’s weird doctrines came out, all Pentecostals distanced themselves
from him except Kenneth Hagin. Hagin
claimed Branham was a true Biblical prophet” [Steve Van Nattan,
http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/branham.htm]. Branham/LR
==>> ■ Latter Rain leader Ern
Baxter was a member of the FL5. Ern
Baxter was “an associate with William Branham’s healing ministry” [Dager, Vengeance is Ours, p62]. ■ Ern Baxter was
William Branham’s secretary [McConnell, ■ “[T]he ‘ ■ Member of the FL5, Derek
Prince, shared a platform with Branham in ’65. [See Derek Prince, Protection
From Deception booklet {}]. ■ “George Warnock, who
wrote the ONLY systematic teaching from the Latter Rain (The Feast of Tabernacles), was Ern Baxter’s personal secretary” [A Second Pentecost?, by Orrel Steinkamp,
banner.org.uk]. Branham/LR
==>> Fuller
TS ■ “I was having a service at Charles Fuller...
with Charles Fuller, over in ■ “Men such as Billy Graham, and Jack
Schuller, Oral Roberts, and many of the great evangelists, and Charles Fuller,
who has an outreach to the whole world, they do everything that they can to
warn the coming of the Lord.” [W.Branham, ‘The Sudden, Secret Going Away of the
Church’, nathan.co.za] ■ Fuller is called a
‘brother’ in other Branham talks including ‘Faith is the Substance’, and
‘Discernment of Spirit’ (both viewable at nathan.co.za). Branham/LR ==>> Pytches, D. ■ Pytches implies that
Branham was part of the true church and, by placing Branham alongside people of
whom Pytches is known to approve (e.g. MacNutt), he endorses Branham’s
ministry [D.Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, p163].
Branham/LR ==>> Wimber,
J. (/Vineyard) ■ Wimber has said: “I
believe the Church of Jesus Christ … has been weighed and judged in this
generation. And instead of learning from our predecessors from the Latter-day
Rain Movement [sic] … we have allowed the enemy to come in and
distract and take away the passion of God, and rob it out of our lives” [Dager,
Vengeance is Ours, p157]. ■ “‘I … picked up
literature written by or about men like … William Branham … Their writings …
did convince me that they were not frauds’” [Wimber, Power Evangelism, 1992,
p84, as quoted in Dager, The Vineyard, p1]. ■ Vineyard’s Jack
Deere has extolled the work of Branham [Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival,
(Word Publishing, 1997), p137]. ■
Vineyard
leader Bill Jackson promotes Branham and defends the LR [Jackson, The Quest
for the Radical Middle.,
pp28,182,183-187]. ■
Vineyard admits that the parallels between the Latter Rain and Paul Cain’s
message to the Vineyard are “striking” [ ■
Vineyard’s Bill Jackson, in a book endorsed by the Vineyard leadership, says William Branham was the “premier” healer of the
post-war period [ ■
Vineyard’s Bill Jackson, in a book published by the Vineyard, claims that the
“Latter rain” saw a true, and “powerful”, revival and that “The Spirit of GOD”
fell on its students [Jackson, op. cit.,
p183]. Cain, Paul /KCP
[Click here for details of this name] Cain/KCP ==>> Alpha ■ “[T]he KCP, headed
by Cain, ministered … at Holy Trinity, Brompton” - this occurred
the very year Gumbel took over Alpha (1990) [Stephen Hunt, Anyone For Alpha?, (Darton,
Longman and Todd, 2001), p25]. ■ Sandy Millar signed
a statement in 1990 declaring that he had “no doubt about the validity”
of KCP’s ministry [Hilborn, op. cit., p13]. ■ “John Wimber,
affirmed in his in-house magazine Equipping the Saints that - in July
1990, in front of 1,000 church leaders at Holy Trinity Brompton - Cain
stated: ‘Thus saith the Lord: Revival will be released in England in October of
1990…’” [Fearon, op. cit, p83]. ■ “[T]he Kansas City
Prophets came to HTB … in 1991” to a conference on prophecy [The Collection,
p198]. The KCP come out very well from
the reference to them in this HTB book. ■ Mike Bickle’s
glowing endorsement of Alpha and of Gumbel is included in Gumbel’s book Telling Others, p15
(2001). ■ POST-1992:
HTB stocks the book Needless Casualties of War by the KCP’s John Paul
Jackson. ■ POST-1992:
HTB stocks the Mike Bickle book Passion for Jesus. ■ POST-1992:
Millar’s endorsement of Bickle’s book Growing in the Prophetic appears
on the front cover of the first edition. ■
POST-1992: Millar shared a platform with the KCPs in 2003 [new-wine-scotland.org]. ■
POST-1992: HTB promotes, and HTB’s newspaper has carried a number of adverts for,
conferences involving Francis Frangipane and Rick Joyner, both of whom were
members of the KCP. ■
POST-1992: Floyd McClung is the senior pastor of Metro and he has
influenced Gumbel. ■
POST-1992: Millar was still endorsing Cain in 1998 [UKFocus, Nov 1998,
pUK2].
Cain/KCP ==>> Kraft, C. ■ Both Cain and Kraft
participated at the 1990 ‘North American Congress on the Holy Spirit &
World Evangelism’ [Cloud]. Cain/KCP ==>> MacNutt, F. ■ “This past July [of 1990] we had the wonderful opportunity to meet several of the so-called “Kansas City prophets” ... We were at a
conference in London directed by John Wimber, who introduced us to Bob Jones
and John Paul Jackson who spent half an hour prophesying in our regard”
[‘Excerpts of a Prophecy’, by Francis MacNutt, taken from the November 1990
issue (of Christian Healing’s newsletter)]. ■ “[P]rophecies
[were] given by Bob Jones and John Paul Jackson for Francis and Judith MacNutt
on July 12, 1990 at Holy Trinity Brompton Anglican Church”[‘Excerpts of a
Prophecy’, by Francis MacNutt, taken from the November 1990 issue (of Christian
Healing’s newsletter)].
Cain/KCP ==>>
Pytches, D. ■ Pytches wrote an
entire book in defence of the KCP entitled Some Said It Thundered
(Hodder and Stoughton, 1990). See Eric
Wright, Strange Fire?,
for more. {} ■ POST-1992: Pytches wrote the Foreword for Bickle’s 1995 book ‘Growing in the Prophetic’. Cain/KCP ==>> Sandford, J./P. ■ The Foreword to the
book Needless Casualties of War (author: John Paul Jackson of the KCP)
was written by John Sandford. ■ POST-1992: The website of the Sandford’s ministry ‘Elijah House’
stocks the book Breaking Free of
Rejection by the KCP’s John Paul Jackson.
Cain/KCP ==>> Wagner, C. P. ■ POST-1992: “A release from The Wagner Institute for Practical Ministry ... Mobilizing the Prophetic Office for the Next Century January 28 -30, 1999: Paul Cain - New Speaker! … We have just been informed that Paul Cain, who is internationally renowned and respected, will be joining us for the key gathering” [www.cephas-library.com/apostles_unity_at_the_end.html]. ■ POST-1992: “Today,
if you visit the World Prayer Center … established and directed by Peter
Wagner, you will find the works of … the Kansas
City prophets” [XOFC article on Wagner { }]. ■ POST-1992: CPW was
joined by Paul Cain and Rick Joyner as speakers at a conference in January 1999
[XOFC article on Wagner { }]. ■ INDIRECT: Weiner has
worked with CPW, yet Paul Cain spoke at Maranatha’s conference in
Cain/KCP ==>> Wimber,
J. (/Vineyard) ■ At
the meeting between Cain and Wimber in 1988, “Cain carries with him a warning
for Wimber and the Vineyard. The essence of his message is that Wimber
must give greater priority to holiness within the movement … Wimber
takes this as a word from God, and decides from now on to forge a close
association with KCF” [Hilborn, op. cit., p12] ■ “At a Vineyard
conference held in Denver in August 1989, Wimber voiced his desire that every
Vineyard pastor present should allow the KCF prophets to minister to
them” [Dager, Vengeance is Ours,
p157. See also Dager, The Vineyard,
p16]. ■ As far back as 1982
David Parker was on Bickle’s staff and has since become the pastor of a large ■ Bickle says: “John
Wimber asked me to pray for the gift of prophecy to be imparted to people at
the 1989 Vineyard Conference in Anaheim” – and he did so [Bickle, Growing in
the Prophetic, p142]. ■ “John Paul Jackson
is a prophetic minister who was on the pastoral staff of Metro Vineyard
Fellowship for about five years and then with John Wimber and the Vineyard
Christian Fellowship in ■ POST-1992: Sam Storms
joined Bickle’s staff in 1993 and attended a Vineyard conference in 1994. ■ POST 1992: Bob Mumford and Paul Cain
were both featured speakers at a Vineyard Conference held in Carter-Stapleton, Ruth [Click here for
details of this name - TO BE DONE]
Carter-Stapleton ==>> Alpha ■ INDIRECT:
Ruth’s brother, Jimmy Carter comes out very well from Gumbel’s comments and
quotes in Challenging Lifestyle, pp210-11. ■ INDIRECT:
Gumbel’s pal, Bill Bright, has worked with Jimmy Carter [Burns, op.cit., p85].
Carter-Stapleton
==>> Schuller,
R. ■ INDIRECT: “[A]
Georgia Dome crusade featured … Jimmy Carter [Ruth’s brother] … [and]
Robert Schuller” [Burns, op. cit., p95].
Carter-Stapleton ==>> Wimber,
J. (/Vineyard) ■ “Wimber cites in his teachings: … Ruth Carter Stapleton”
[Al Dager, The Vineyard, p12]. ■ In his book, Power healing,
Wimber writes that he studied “the theologies and practices of leaders from different schools of
divine healing” applying what he “learnt from these models to our situation in
the Vineyard Christian Fellowship”. In
the accompanying footnote he writes: “Almost every model I studied offered some
insight into divine healing,…” Amongst the leaders of these “schools” and
“models” he lists are … Ruth Carter-Stapleton [Wimber, Power Healing,
pp182, 292-293]. ■ Wimber cites Ruth Carter-Stapleton as a true DIVINE healer
[Power Healing, p293]. Copeland, Kenneth /Hagin, Kenneth
[Click here for details of these names] Copeland/Hagin
==>> Alpha ■ HTB still stocks Wimber’s book Power Healing, and this book is
advertised in Alpha News, #19, p32, yet
it directly promotes Copeland and Hagin by name. This book formed an item of recommended
reading on early versions of Alpha (i.e. pre-1995), since it is listed in the
recommended reading in the White (1993) Alpha Manual for attendees. ■ INDIRECT: HTB endorsed Paul Cain
[David Hilborn, A Chronicle of the Toronto Blessing and Related Events,
as published by the Evangelical Alliance (UK), p136], who has shared a platform
with Kenneth Hagin [Charisma
Magazine, July 1989, p27, as quoted in Roger Oakland, New Wine or Old
Deception? (The Word for Today, 1995), p76]. ■ HTB stocks John Wimber’s book Power
Healing which lends substantial credence to Hagin’s ministry – and also
mentions Copeland positively (see entry ‘Wimber (/Vineyard) ==>>
Copeland/Hagin’ for details). ■ The God Channel is advertised in Alpha
News #26, p26. ■
POST-1992, INDIRECT: HTB has endorsed
Randy Clark, who has cooperated with Hagin. ■
POST-1992, INDIRECT: HTB’s leaders have no apparent problem with RHB –
who was a product of Hagin’s church. See
the letter HTB’s Sandy Millar wrote in the ■
INDIRECT,
POST-1992: HTB stocks Copeland/Hagin ==>> Cain, P.
/KCP ■ Paul Cain has shared a platform with Hagin [ ■ INDIRECT POST-1992: “Israel’s Jubilee Celebration
[www.israeljubilee.com] held in 1998, where … Rick Joyner and Stephen Strang
shared the stage with Benny Hinn, [and] Mike Bickle” [watchpair.com]. ■ INDIRECT POST-1992: John Paul Jackson has appeared on Hinn’s TV show
[new-wine-scotland.org]. Copeland/Hagin ==>> ■ “In response to Copeland’s overtures,
[FL5’s] Simpson stated that ‘I’ve always believed that those men [the faith
teachers - DRC] had something the church needed to hear, and I am moved by the
openness I see among many of them. Ken [Copeland - DRC], for example, has taken
some daring and courageous steps to identify with us and other leaders. He has
won my admiration for that’” [McConnell, op. cit., p89]. ■ CBM links Hagin to
the FL5 since Charles Simpson was a member of both [Al Dager, Vengeance is
Ours, (Sword Publishers, 1990), p126]. ■ “[T]he
NCM is to me the most enigmatic of all these ‘networks’ because of the
paradoxical membership mixture, which ... includes on the one hand Bob Mumford
and Charles Simpson, … and on the other hand men such as Kenneth Copeland” [Charismatic Captivation, By Dr. Steven
Lambert]. ■ See also entry FL5
==> Copeland/Hagin. Copeland/Hagin
==>> Pytches, D. ■ INDIRECT: Pytches calls TBN
‘Christian’ and that “special [supposedly successful] prayer went up” when TBN
was contacted after someone had died [Come, Holy Spirit, p238]. (TBN has
worked with both Hagin and Copeland.) Copeland/Hagin ==>> Wimber, J.
(/Vineyard) ■ In his book Power Healing
Wimber cites Hagin as an apparently recommended source on healing; Wimber
seemingly coming down on the side of all physical healing being in the
atonement – which is Hagin’s view [John Wimber with Kevin Springer, Power
Healing, (Hodder and Stoughton, London, 1986), pp166, 291]. ■ In his book, Power healing,
Wimber writes that he studied “the theologies and practices of leaders from different schools of
divine healing” applying what he “learnt from these models to our situation in the
Vineyard Christian Fellowship”. In the
accompanying footnote he writes: “Almost every model I studied offered some
insight into divine healing,…” Amongst the leaders of these “schools” and
“models” he lists are Kenneth Copeland, Morris Cerullo and Kenneth
Hagin [Wimber, Power Healing, pp182, 292-293]. ■ That Hagin was an admitted
influence on Wimber is reported at: Al
Dager, John Wimber and the Vineyard, as recorded at
www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/wimber/john.htm. ■ “Kenneth Copeland appeared … in New Wine, along
with … John Wimber, …
in a forum on unity in the charismatic movement” [McConnell, op. cit.,
p88]. ■ “A series of Conferences beginning in 1986 called, The North American
Congress was sponsored by the North American Renewal Service Committee. David
Cloud writes he attended one in 1987 and also 1990. According to Cloud,
influential leaders of the charismatic movement participated--[including] John Wimber, [and] Kenneth Copeland” [www.seekgod.ca/eject2.htm]. ■ “Wimber cites in his teachings … Kenneth E. Hagin, ‘father’ of the
word-faith movement, mentor of Kenneth Copeland, and disciple of E.W.Kenyon,
whose theology was heavily influenced by science of mind teachings” [Dager, The
Vineyard, p13]. ■ POST-1992: Vineyard’s Bill Jackson claims that the
“renewal” associated with ■
POST-1992: “[Vineyard’s] Randy Clark, .... received his anointing ...
at Kenneth Hagin’s ‘Rhema’ church” [Sizer, The
Toronto Blessing]. ■ INDIRECT, POST-1992: Wimber allowed Benny Hinn to lay
hands on, and pray over, him, but Hinn believes Copeland is “the very presence
of God”. {} ■ INDIRECT, POST-1992: Vineyard’s Bill Jackson and Randy
Clark have no apparent problem with Rodney Howard-Browne (a product of Hagin) [ ■
INDIRECT: “John Arnott, pastor of the
Toronto Vineyard, admits to having been a friend of Benny Hinn for 20 years and
that he has been a leading figure in shaping his view of divine healing and
anointing” [Sizer, taken from Gary McHale & Michael Haykin, The Toronto Blessing: A Renewal from God?, (Canadian
Christian Publishers, 1995), p245]. ■ INDIRECT: “In January 1994, John Wimber also confessed
the impact Benny Hinn has had upon him, ‘...he was the most sweet, broken
person I’ve ever talked to. I cry out now, thinking about it. He’s so full of
the Holy Ghost. I just loved him.’” [Sizer, taken from Gary
McHale & Michael Haykin, op. cit.,
p249]. ■ POST-1992, INDIRECT: “JOHN KILPATRICK
[linked to HTB] AND BOB MUMFORD TEAM UP AT CHRISTIAN BELIEVERS UNITED in
■ POST-1992,
INDIRECT: “One advertisement for a
Vineyard Conference held in ■ POSSIBLY
POST-1992: HTB stocks at least three books by Derek Prince
(including Blessing and Cursing and Appointment in Jerusalem [the latter predates 1992]). ■
“Derek
Prince came to the church [KCF] in 1986” [“Vintage Metro: My Eight Years With The Kansas City Prophets” (Part Two), Don Clasen]. ■ POST 1992: Bob Mumford and Paul Cain
were both featured speakers at a Vineyard Conference held in ■ INDIRECT: Weiner has worked with at least 4
members of the FL5, yet in 1990 Weiner was found preaching at Rick Joyner’s
Morning Star compound. Weiner is on
Morning Star’s Board of Directors.
(Weiner has admitted that he and his organization had “taken the
teachings, eaten the meat and swallowed the bones” of the FL5’s ‘discipleship’
movement. Furthermore, Weiner spent time
during a sabbatical in 1989 being ‘ministered’ to by Larry Tomczak, Albie
Person and Derek Prince [‘Maranatha Revamps Church Structure’, Charisma and Christian Life, March 1990,
pp21-22, courtesy of researcher in U.S.].
Also, “Weiner welcomed … Mumford and others to preach” at Maranatha’s
conferences [letter from researcher in ■ “In January of 1984, New Wine magazine featured and endorsed Kenneth Copeland, ... The Shepherding leaders defended Copeland, claiming that his doctrine, like theirs, was misunderstood and misapplied by followers. Bob Mumford commented, ‘One thing all of us have learned through the opposition we have experienced is that when a biblical truth is revealed to us, we cannot cease to preach it because some people misapply it. We feel an identification with Kenneth and those other brothers…’ … [‘A Voice of Victory: An Interview with Kenneth Copeland’, New Wine 16 (Jan. 1984)]” [Dan McConnell, The Promise of Health and Wealth, (Hodder and Stoughton, 1990), p87] ■ “The first national Network conference in
Denver [in 1985] … included Faith leader Kenneth Copeland, and
Shepherding leaders Charles Simpson and Bob Mumford … In the afterglow of the first Network conference,
Kenneth Copeland appeared again in [FL5’s] New Wine, along with
Charles Simpson, … in a forum on unity in the charismatic movement. In this
forum, Copeland and Simpson engaged in mutual absolution of past abuses. They
hailed Shepherding and Faith doctrine as valid and important parts of the
multifaceted revelation given to the independent charismatic movement.” [Ibid, p88]. ■ Mumford and Copeland both participated in
the ‘North American Congress’ in ’87 and/or ’90 [{}] ■ INDIRECT: Hinn (who works with
Copeland) quotes favourably from Derek Prince [G. Richard Fisher and M. Kurt
Goedelman, The Confusing World of Benny Hinn, (Personal Freedom
Outreach, 1996), p77]. ■ See also entry
Copeland/Hagin ==> FL5. ■ “It was to Bob Mumford that Lonnie Frisbee
went in 1971, when he left Chuck Smith … At the invitation of Mumford,
Lonnie entered the beginning of the shepherding movement ‘to join with other
Jesus People leaders,’ for five years of ‘intensive Bible study’, where
upon he returned to Calvary Chapel for a short time” [www.seekgod.ca]. ■ “In October 1971 Frisbee announced that he was
leaving Calvary Chapel and ■ “The Frisbees accepted the invitation of Bob Mumford … to come to Ft. Lauderdale for the BEGINNING of what would become the Discipleship (or Shepherding) movement … Mumford asked him [Lonnie] to submit to his direct spiritual supervision for a one-year sabbatical from the ministry to engender healing and restoration” [Jackson, op. cit., p44]. ■ “Lonnie Frisbee had returned to Calvary Costa Mesa
after several years of being involved with Bob Mumford in Santa Clara,
CA. Lonnie had suffered a very painful divorce, and had fallen prey to their
shepherding doctrines.” [ ■ Lonnie was a fan of Derek Prince and even gave
his bother some teaching tapes by Prince [telephone conversation with Stan
Frisbee]. ■ “In January (7-10),
I [MacNutt] was part of the annual meeting of the Charismatic Concerns
Committee (CCC). This group of about 40 has been quietly meeting since 1971 when Dennis Bennett invited a group of
diverse leaders (including myself) from the newly begun charismatic renewal to
help these national leaders get to know each other. Among those leaders (for
those of you who remember back that far) were David duPlessis, the “Fort Lauderdale Five” (such as Derek
Prince, Don Basham, Bob Mumford, and Charles Simpson). The group was small
enough that we really got to know and esteem each other” [Healing News by
Francis MacNutt, taken from the Mar/Apr 2002 issue,
www.christianhealingmin.org/healingnews2002-2.htm].
■ MacNutt
was a member of the CBM alongside FL5’s Simpson [Dager, Vengeance is Ours,
p126]. ■ MacNutt is linked to Derek
Prince through them both attending a CFO camp in 1967
[Francis MacNutt, Fire From Heaven,
www.christianhealingmin.org/firefromheaven.htm]. ■ “I have learned so much about deliverance, beginning
with Agnes Sanford, and then Tommy Tyson, and then Derek Prince and other protestants who have
written extensively about casting out demons (as in Derek’s recent book, They Shall Expel Demons.)” [‘Seeking a
Balanced Deliverance Ministry in the Church’, by Francis MacNutt, taken from
the Fall 1999 issue of his
newsletter]. ■ MacNutt recommends a Don Basham book [Healing,
p329]. ■ The MacNutts recommend and praise work by both Basham and Prince [Praying
for Your Unborn Child, (Hodder and ■
INDIRECT: Wierwille was greatly influenced by Clark, Daily and Moseley of CFO, but
[Derek] Prince spoke at a CFO camp:
“CAMPS FARTHEST OUT -- This semi-metaphysical movement is even more errant than the
above, yet Mr. Grubb enjoys fellowship at their far-out camps, and even
recommends the strange writings of CFO leaders such as founder Glenn Clark,
Starr Daily, and Rufus Moseley” [Mr. Norman P. Grubb, Miles J.
Stanford]. ■ “[I]n [FL5’s magazine] New Wine, … [appeared] John
Wimber, … in a forum on unity in the charismatic movement” [McConnell, op.
cit., p88]. ■ POST 1992: Bob Mumford [was one of
the] featured speakers at a Vineyard Conference held in ■
POST-1992,
WEAK: “The Renewal Journal, Number 5, on ‘Signs and Wonders’ included comment
on the current blessing from overseas by Derek Prince, John Wimber, Jerry
Steingard and others” [Renewal Journal # 7 (96:1): Blessing]. ■ In his book, Power healing,
Wimber writes that he studied “the theologies and practices of leaders from different schools of
divine healing” applying what he “learnt from these models to our situation in
the Vineyard Christian Fellowship”. In
the accompanying footnote he writes: “Almost every model I studied offered some
insight into divine healing,…” Amongst the leaders of these “schools” and
“models” he lists are … Derek Prince. [Wimber, Power Healing, pp182,
292-293]. ■ Wimber cites Derek Prince as a true divine healer [Power Healing, p293]. Foster, Richard /Renovaré [Click here for details of this name]
Foster/Renovaré ==>> Alpha ■ Foster’s book Money, Sex and Power is recommended in
the first edition of Gumbel’s book Searching Issues. Although Searching Issues only came
out in 1994, the reference is to the 1985 Hodder and Stoughton edition
of Foster’s book, whereas Hodder and Stoughton brought out another edition in 1987,
so Gumbel almost certainly read the book prior to 1987 else he would surely
have used a more up-to-date version of it. ■ Gumbel quotes from
the *1978* Hodder and ■ HTB published
details of Foster’s endorsement of Alpha in Alpha News, #22, p4. ■ Foster spoke at HTB twice in April 2000 [HTB audio
catalogue]. ■ INDIRECT:
HTB was very close to David Watson, who was very close to Foster (see Morrison, op. cit., pp432 and
559). Gumbel recommends Watson’s 1984 book
Fear No Evil, in his 1994 edition of Searching Issues. But their
relationship (through Wimber) goes back much further. ■ INDIRECT:
At the end of chapter 5 of his book Searching Issues, Gumbel recommends
a volume by Leanne Payne – who is closely associated with Karen Mains (on Renovare’s Board of Reference) [Al
Dager, Special Report: Holy Laughter, (Media Spotlight, 1995), p14]. ■ INDIRECT: Campolo has influenced HTB, and Renovaré’s ...
speakers have included ... Tony Campolo” [Dave Hunt, The Berean Call, March 2000]. ■ POST-1992: Foster spoke at HTB at
least 5 times between 8th and ■ POST-1992:
Three sections of the book The Collection, edited by Mark Elsdon-Dew
(HTB Publications, 1996), were by Richard Foster. The book
also gives a photograph of him. He is
identified in the book as follows: “Bestselling author of Prayer: The Heart’s True Home and Celebration of Discipline,
Richard Foster is the founder of RENOVARÉ, a movement commited [sic] to
spiritual renewal” [p12, capitals in original]. ■ POST-1992: HTB described Foster in
1996 as a “personal friend” of HTB [Elsdon-Dew, Ed, The Collection,
p15].
Foster/Renovaré ==>> Cain, P. /KCP. ■ In July 1989 Wimber introduced
Bickle to Foster, whom Bickle had wanted to meet “for a long time” and the two
men went out for lunch [Bickle, Growing in the Prophetic, (Kingsway,
1995), pp13-14].
Foster/Renovaré ==>> Sandford, J./P. ■
“Of
the many Evangelicals who have endorsed Richard Foster’s ‘Celebration of Discipline’, in the Spiritual
Disciplines (Second Edition, pp 203-210) we find ... John and Paula Sandford”
[‘Renovaré & The Christian Mystic’, www.seekgod.ca/renovare.htm]. ■ The Sandfords
called Foster’s book Prayer: Finding the Heart’s True Home –
“Magnificent!” [Editorial Review from Amazon].
Foster/Renovaré ==>> Wagner, C. P. ■ Wagner has endorsed a Foster book: “Of the many
Evangelicals who have endorsed Richard Foster’s Celebration of Disciplines,
[sic] in the Spiritual Disciplines (Second Edition, pp 203-210) we find CPW”
[Dager/www.seekgod.ca] {}
Foster/Renovaré ==>> Wimber,
J. (/Vineyard) ■ “In the Foreword to [Wimber’s book] Power Healing, Richard
Foster … claims that ‘John speaks with the confidence of one who is living out
of the divine Center’” [Al Dager, The Vineyard, p4].
Fox, George /Quakers [Click here for details of this name - TO
BE DONE] N.B. All the links
in this section are APART from any influence by Quakers ON THE CHART (i.e.
Foster, Wimber). Fox/Quakers ==>> Alpha ■ A Quaker is referred to in Gumbel’s book Telling
Others, p47. That this Quaker was
objecting to a valid aspect of John Wesley’s ministry yet was still supposedly
‘blessed by God’ in Nicky’s eyes suggests he believes Quakers are such good
Christians that they still receive from God even when they are opposing Him. ■ INDIRECT, POST-1992: Michael Green
defends George Fox and the Quakers [Wallace Boulton, Ed., The Impact of “ ■ INDIRECT, POST-1992: Gumbel works with Schuller, yet one of
Schuller’s closest aides is a Quaker { } ■
INDIRECT: Michael Green has heavily influenced HTB, yet he promotes George Fox
[Wallace Boulton, Ed., The Impact of
Fox/Quakers ==>> ■ Don Basham quotes a letter from someone he
calls “a doctor friend” as being God’s answer to one of Basham’s prayers. (The letter was accompanied by two
cheques.) The problem is that the
letter’s author was a Quaker – AND BASHAM MAKES THIS CLEAR, thus legitimizing
Quakerism as a movement which hears from God [Deliver Us From Evil, p87]. Basham had already edited PART of the
letter. It would have been easy for him
to drop the five little words “as we Quakers would say” from it. ■ “The
Encyclopedia Britannica states that glossolalia (speaking in tongues) ‘recurs
in Christian revivals of every age, e.g., among the mendicant friars of the
thirteenth century, among the Jansenists and early Quakers...’” [Don Basham, Handbook On Holy
Spirit Baptism, Whitaker House, 1984].
Fox/Quakers ==>> Foster, R.
/Renovaré ■ Richard Foster is a Quaker. ■ “[I]t is out of the religious traditions of
the Quakers that Foster has come with the message that today’s Christians are
missing out on some wonderful spiritual experiences…” [Al Dager, Media
Spotlight Special Report: Renovaré: Taking Leave of One’s Senses, (1992,
2003), p1]. ■ On Renovaré’s Original Steering Committee,
and the Speaking Platform for the 1991 Conference in Los Angeles, was T. Eugene
Coffin who is a Quaker and a Counselor at Crystal Cathedral [Dager, MS Special
Report, Renovaré, p15]. ■ Gayle D. Beebe, a Quaker, is a member of
Renovaré’s Ministry Team
[http://www.renovaré.org/invitation_ministry_team_list_1.htm]. ■ “[Renovaré’s] William L. Vaswig [is] a
Lutheran minister whose experience in the religious disciplines was gained
through the Shalem Institute for Spiritual Formation in Washington D.C. …
Another facet of Shalem’s work is what is known as ‘body prayer’ … taught by
Isabella Bates … [her] credentials are stated thusly: ‘Quaker,
… Reiki practitioner…’ (Shalem Institute, Winter 1991 Catalog)” [Dager,
MS Special Report, Renovaré, pp1,12. See also Miles J. Stanford, ‘Renovaré: NAVIGATORS SANS COMPASS’,
http://withchrist.org/MJS/renovaré.htm]. Fox/Quakers ==>> Kelsey, M. PLEASE NOTE: this list does not include the
influence that Quaker Richard Foster has had on Kelsey. ■ Kelsey legitimizes Fox and the Early Quakers
[Kelsey, Speaking With
Tongues, p55].
Fox/Quakers ==>> MacNutt, F. ■
MacNutt refers very positively to “the early Quakers” [‘Echo of Restoration’, by
Francis MacNutt, taken from the December 1990 issue of his newsletter]. Fox/Quakers ==>> Pytches, D. ■ Pytches legitimizes Fox’s spiritual
discernment (and, in so doing, gives credence to “the founder of the Quakers”
and thus to Quakerism) [D.Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, p88]. ■ Pytches knows that
Wimber was “an assistant pastor of a Quaker
church” and is apparently totally unruffled by this fact [D.Pytches, Come,
Holy Spirit, p14]. He also says “a
small group had come into renewal at the Quaker church that John had formerly helped
pastor” [Ibid, p15] which tends to lend credence to Quakerism.
Fox/Quakers ==>> ■
■
Thomas
Kelly was a Quaker, yet Fox/Quakers
==>> Wimber, J. (/Vineyard) ■ Wimber joined a Quaker congregation in 1963
[Hilborn, op. cit., p6] and “From 1970-73, John … [was]
co-pastoring at the same church” [Ibid]. ■ “In 1970 [Wimber] joined the staff as an
assistant pastor at the ■ “…a long-time friend, ■ “In 1970 I joined the staff at Yorba Linda Friends
[Quaker] Church” [John Wimber, Power
Healing, p42]. ■ A Vineyard position paper on the ‘Toronto
Blessing’, concludes by “pointing to the historical precedent of George Fox,
founder of the Quakers” [Eric Wright, Strange Fire, {add Pub details and
date}, p80]. Freemasons [Click here for details of this name - TO BE DONE] N.B. All the links
in this section are APART from any influence by masons ON THE CHART (e.g.
Schuller and Suenens). Freemasons ==>> Alpha ■ Billy Graham is a major influence on HTB, yet he is a
Mason [click
here for evidence]. ■ INDIRECT:
“The man who Graham says initially told him to become a Christian minister was
the head of the Jesuits, Malachi Martin, who I know to be an Illuminati
mind-control programmer” {} ■
INDIRECT: “Peale, Schuller, and
Roberts are Illuminati” {} ■ HTB still stocks Wimber’s book Power Healing, and this book is
advertised in Alpha News, #19, p32,
yet it directly promotes mason Oral Roberts by name. This book formed an item of recommended
reading on early versions of Alpha (i.e. pre-1995), since it is listed in the
recommended reading in the White (1993) Alpha Manual for attendees. ■
Dr. Geoffrey Fisher, a high-ranking mason (and Archbishop of ■ INDIRECT: “The Church of England has been a
stronghold of freemasonry for more than 200 years. Traditionally, joining the
brotherhood and advancing within it has always been the key to
preferment in the church” [Stephen Knight, The Brotherhood, (Grafton
Books, 1985), p240]. ■ INDIRECT: HTB
claims that Mozart was a Christian, yet he was a freemason. ■ INDIRECT: HTB is happy to associate with Bill Bright, yet
Bright’s Committee of Reference includes Roy Rogers – a 33rd degree Mason
[Burns, op. cit., p488], Jesse Helms
– a 33 degree Mason [Ibid], Norman
Vincent Peale – a 33rd degree Mason [click
here for evidence] [Ibid],
Robert Schuller – a 33rd degree Mason [Ibid]. Bright has been a member of the national
Honorary Committee of Clement Stone’s Religious Heritage of America (RHA). Stone is a 33rd degree Mason [Ibid, p488]. ■ The Bishop of London, who works VERY closely with HTB, can often be
seen wearing a ‘double-cross’ (as in “he double-crossed me”). This is a Masonic sign and is similar to that
appearing in the insignia for the company name ‘exxon’. ■ POSSIBLY POST-1992: Gumbel quotes [mason]
Mozart positively [A Life Worth Living, p30]. ■ POSSIBLY POST-1992: Gumbel quotes (mason)
Benjamin Franklin favourably [A Life Worth Living,
p105]. ■
POST-1992: ‘Canon’
Andrew White is a Knight Templar, yet he has spoken at HTB on several occasions
[see HTB tape catalogue]. ■ INDIRECT: Lord Hutton appears to be a mason, yet he
is a member of HTB. (Hutton was tasked with defending the government during the
Widgery inquiry into ‘Bloody Sunday’. Given that Lord Widgery too was given the
job by the government, and took Hutton’s line, and that Hutton himself
completely followed the government’s line when he was appointed to run the
Hutton inquiry just before he retired, it seems very likely that Hutton too was
a mason – since Widgery was a mason of grand
rank [Stephen Knight, The Brotherhood, (Grafton Books, 1983), p156]. ■ INDIRECT:
“Rev. William Booth-- Salvation Army” was a mason, as was
Henry Ford. Both make a positive
appearance in the Alpha materials. ■ INDIRECT:
Bright has influenced Alpha, yet
he wrote the book The Greatest Lesson I’ve Ever Learned which gives
“fascinating personal glimpses into the lives of Christian men from Billy
Graham to … Norman Vincent Peale”. ■
POST-1992: The August 2005 edition of
HTB’s Focus newspaper carries an
advert for a debate entitled ‘To be or not to be a freemason’ featuring “One
minister who IS a freemason [and] One minister who is
not”. This is worrying for the following
reasons: Firstly, if HTB is opposed to masonry then it would already have told
its congregants to have nothing to do with it and thus there would be no need
to advertise this meeting. Secondly, why
is it a DEBATE? Since it is about Christians
becoming masons, rather than non-Christians, there is no need to debate it –
only a need to spell out the facts about masonry and how it is incredibly
dangerous and wrong. To have a DEBATE
gives a platform to a masonic ‘minister’ to potentially beguile young
believers. The issue of masonry is
totally clear-cut to anyone who believes the Bible, so there IS no debate! It’s not like certain other subjects where
young believers can sincerely reach differing opinions due to inadequate
knowledge of the subject! It seems that
HTB only advertised this meeting so it could be seen to be doing SOMETHING, now
that we are putting pressure on HTB in this regard, but it is doing the minimum
possible! I [DP] don’t recall seeing ANY
books on masonry in the bookshop at HTB!
If they were anti-masonry surely they would stock some?? ■ Masonry is
widespread in legal circles. Millar left
the bar in 1974, but is still very good friends with senior lawyers a full
TWENTY years later. Why is this if he’s
not a mason, and why would he stay in such close touch with a group of
unbelievers when he’s so incredibly busy? ■ Curate Andrew White
is a knight templar yet “In 1994, 50 members of St. Mark’s, Battersea
[essentially an HTB plant since 1987] … went with curate Andrew White to
‘graft’ into the existing congregation … of the Church of the Ascension in
Balham” [Focus, June 2005, p16]. Note that HTB’s John Irvine has become dean
of ■ Booth, the founder of the Salvation Army, was a mason – yet HTB
regularly legitimizes him [e.g. in the Sandy Millar sermon called ‘For All The Saints’, given at HTB on ■
Bob Hope was a mason, but Millar quotes him favourably [‘The Extraordinary
God’, a talk given at HTB on ■ HTB stocks a book
which unreservedly praises Norman Vincent Peale [Ken Blanchard, Bill Hybels and
■ INDIRECT: David Wilkerson has influenced HTB (his book The Cross and the Switchblade is
recommended reading for ‘Session 3’ of Alpha), yet Wilkerson has cooperated
with mason Oral Roberts [See Roberts’ autobiography Expect a Miracle]. ■ INDIRECT, POSSIBLY POST-1992: Gumbel approvingly quotes “psychiatrist Paul
Tournier” [Gumbel, Heart of Revival,
(Kingsway, 1998), p111] yet Tournier gives an unnecessary legitimacy to mason Norman
Vincent Peale in his book ‘The Adventure of Living’ [see its index]. ■ INDIRECT, POST-1992: Luis Palau is a speaker for the (masonic) PK
organisation, yet Gumbel is a fan of ■ INDIRECT: The archbishop of Freemasons ==>> Assagioli, R. ■ “[I]n 1932 Roberto Assagioli came within the influence of … [co-Mason]
Alice B. Bailey, and assisted her with her renowned ERANOS Conferences”
[Morrison, op. cit., p433]. Freemasons
==>> Bertolucci, J. ■ “[W]hen the charismatic Rock Christian Network was launched in 1986,
Tim LaHaye’s beaming face joined those of the charismatic mystics Oral Roberts [33rd degree mason –
click
here for evidence], David (Paul) Yonggi Cho [linked to
HTB], and Demos Shakarian, Catholic priest John
Bertolucci, and others” [Biblical Discernment Ministries,
www.straightistheway.com/warning/lahaye/tim_lahaye.html]. ■ INDIRECT: Bertolucci has worked with LaHaye, but
“Timothy LaHaye ... [founded] the Council for National Policy ... in 1981. This
secret council consists of ... [mason] Jesse Helms [among others]” { } Freemasons ==>> Boehme, J.
/Leade, J. ■ INDIRECT: “[T]he eminent antiquarian and astrologer, Elias Ashmole, … granted Dr. John
Pordage (1607-81) [the man behind Jane Leade] the clerical living at Bradfield…(ibid,
pge. 45). Elias Ashmole … is renowned in occult circles as being the first
officially enrolled ‘speculative’ Freemason”
[www.unitypublishing.com/NewReligiousMovements/WhatSpirit3.html]. Freemasons ==>> Branham, W.
/LR ■ “Question: ‘Brother Branham, is there anything
wrong with belonging to a secret lodge, after we have become a Christian, such
as the Masons?’ Answer: ‘No Sir! You can be a Christian wherever you are. I
don’t care where you are, you can still be a Christian.’” It has been alleged
by many that Branham had been a Mason.
... He bragged about the Masons helping him when he was a boy and needed
medical help. He never once spoke against this cult” [Steve Van Nattan,
www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/branham.htm]. ■ “When I went into the Marble church up there at—at the... [33rd
degree mason] Norman Vincent Peale,
you’ve heard of him. You see? And I went into... A great psychology, he’s a
teacher, you know. And I went into his church, I just thought that, “I wished
my Tabernacle would do that again.” ... ■ “In New York, last week, ... I went to hear Norman Vincent Peale on his psychology, about how that people
should do or walk, and project themselves into psychology” [W. Branham, ‘What
Shall I Do With Jesus Called Christ?’, nathan.co.za]. ■ Masonry is often referred to as “The Brotherhood”, and Masons meet in
“Lodges”. Without clarification, Branham said “after the second or third
round of apostles, they begin to denominate the churches, break up the
brotherhood, like lodges”. [W. Branham, ‘The Roman Nobleman’,
nathan.co.za]. In just one talk,
Branham refers to the term the “brotherhood” sixteen times without once
distinguishing between the Christian and Masonic versions. [W.
Branham, ‘I Will Restore’, nathan.co.za]. ■ “And there was something about Abraham that he knew that there
was--them men was just a little different from ordinary men. There’s somehow...
You know, a mason knows a mason when he speaks to him. And different lodges
know by different signs. The Christian does too. There’s just something about when
you speak to a man, and you feel
that gentle sweet spirit, you know he’s
your brother” [Steve Van Nattan,
www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/branham.htm]. “they have things in
common. They could talk about things. The Masonic--Masonic lodge, they have
things to talk about, brothers of the Masons’ lodge; brothers of
the Odd Fellows lodge” [W. Branham, ‘A Super Sign’, nathan.co.za]. ■ “Many high ranking world Masons in government
and business and involved in wicca and satanism
received him [Branham] by a mysterious hand grip. How could he have known these
secret signs and grips without being a member himself?” [Steve Van Nattan,
www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/branham.htm]. ■ [Note: A mason must have reached the 32nd degree in the
Scottish Rite, or the Knights Templar degree in the York Rite before becoming a
‘Noble of the Mystic Shrine’ or shriner.] “Let’s,
before we read this, let’s ask Him to meet with us now, and bless the building,
and the place that we’re attending as we gather for His glory. We want to thank
the—that’s the Shriners isn’t it...?... opening up their... The Shriners...?... They have
been nice to me wherever I have went [sic]. They’ve opened up their doors, and I’ve been
given a chance to express...?... They’ve throwed
[sic] their doors open...?... I’m the only one of my family, in my
father’s, or my mother’s people, or also my wife’s people have...?... [been allowed?!] into the Masons, Shriners,
or...?... in their organizations. And may God bless them, is my prayer” [All ellipses
in original talk, W. Branham, ‘The Second Coming’]. ■ “Now, tonight is the last night until Sunday afternoon, for the
auditorium services here, because I think our beloved friends, the Shriners,
may be using their auditorium on Saturday night. And we certainly give a way in
respects to that and very happily to
do it” [ ■ “This Message by Brother William Marrion Branham called Experiences #2 was delivered on ■ “Branham said the ZODIAC AND THE EGYPTIAN PYRAMIDS were equal to the
Scriptures in the revelation of God’s word. He has a pyramid shaped tombstone in ■ “Men such as Billy Graham [mason – click
here for evidence], and Jack Schuller [mason], Oral Roberts
[33rd degree mason – click
here for evidence], … do
everything that they can to warn the coming of the Lord” [WB, ‘The Sudden,
Secret Going Away of the Church’, www.bible-way.com/en/581012.html]. “Who is This that’s
performing these miracles? Who is It that’s doing
these great works? Is--is the preacher? Is it Oral Roberts? Is it Billy Graham?
Is it Jack Schuller? William Branham?” [W. Branham, ‘Who Is This?’, nathan.co.za]. ■ “[T]hat would knock out that astronomic year
or the Julian year--calendar (See?), the Masonic
year, because the world’s tilted” [ ■ Demos Shakarian and [Freemason] Oral Roberts started the
Full Gospel Businessmen’s Fellowship Int. in ■ Branham said “I believe it was in the "Ten
Commandments,” the late Cecil DeMille, that wrote and put on the screen one of
the masterpieces of the movie world. And before it was put on the scene, or let
out, Cecil DeMille called Oral Roberts, and Demas [sic] Shakarian, and a bunch
of the Full Gospel ministers, and took them into his own studios, and showed
the four hours of the “Ten Commandments,” and asked them their opinion of it. God rest his gallant soul.” But Cecil B. DeMille was a mason [www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/famous.htm]. ■ “Branham came to be the assistant pastor of a Jeffersonville
Baptist church. When the church burned down Branham took over the congregation
which initially met in a tent and a ‘Masonic temple’” [Answers.com]. ■ Branham said “George Jefferies, and F. F. Bosworth,
and [mason] Charles Price, ... those great warriors of
the faith” [Is Your Life Worthy Of The
Gospel? ■ Branham’s gravestone is a pyramid – a classic emblem of masonry as can
be seen on the one dollar bill and in many other places. Freemasons ==>> Cain, P. /KCP ■ POSSIBLY POST-1992: Bickle cites [mason] Billy
Graham as a “prophetic minister” raised up by God to
“reveal the deep things about the knowledge of God” [Growing in the
Prophetic, pp224-5]. ■ INDIRECT, POST-1992: Hinn has worked with John Paul Jackson, yet Hinn cites mason Billy
Graham positively in his book The Blood
published in 1993 [The Confusing World of
Benny Hinn, p77]. Freemasons ==>> Copeland, K.
/Hagin, K. ■ An entire webpage with evidence for this is:
www.Kenneth-copeland.com/Freemason.html ■ Both
men associate with the 33rd degree mason Oral
Roberts. {} ■ INDIRECT: Hinn
works with Copeland, yet he cites mason Billy Graham positively in his book The Blood published in 1993 [The Confusing World of Benny Hinn, p77]. ■ “Kenneth Copeland started his ministry under Oral
Roberts 33rd Degree ... Kenneth was on TV sometime around June 1997 praising
Oral Roberts as they are close friends”
[newsletters.cephasministry.com/copelandmason.99.html]. Freemasons ==>> ■ “[T]he NCM is to me the most enigmatic of all
these ‘networks’ because of the paradoxical membership mixture, which ...
includes on the one hand Bob Mumford and Charles Simpson, two of the original Fab
Five founders of the Discipleship heresy, along with others such as Earl Paulk
..., Larry Tomczak ..., and Bob Weiner (Maranatha Ministries) ..., and on the
other hand men such as Kenneth Copeland, Ken Sumrall, and the now late Demos
Shakarian, all of whom were staunch opponents of the whole Discipleship matter.
Other NCM members (as of 1989) include: [freemason] Oral Roberts” [Charismatic
Captivation, By Dr. Steven Lambert]. ■ Basham promotes mason Billy Graham and mason
Oral Roberts in his book Face Up With A Miracle, p158. Freemasons ==>> Foster, R./Renovaré ■ POST-1992:
Foster recommends listening to Mozart (who, according to Masonic sites, was a
freemason) [Foster, Seeking the Kingdom, (Hodder and Stoughton, 1995),
p46].
Freemasons ==>> Frisbee, L. ■
A photograph exists of Lonnie’s meeting in ■
Lonnie admitted getting at least parts of his healing technique from watching
(mason) Oral Roberts. ■
INDIRECT: [Mason] Billy
Graham gave the closing sermon at Explo ‘72 shortly after he had “penned a book
affirming his allegiance with ‘The Jesus Generation.’” [‘People
and Faces’, http://one-way.org/jesusmovement/index.html]. Graham called the event “a Christian
Woodstock” [Alvin L. Reid]. {} Even if Frisbee
was not present, he will have been close to a number of people who were. ■
INDIRECT: Frisbee remained a hippy, and a key hippy phrase was “flower
power”, but “Eternal Flower Power” was also a secret password in Freemasonry [D. Meyer]. This bolsters the belief that Masons were
behind the hippy movement (and behind ‘Jesus Freaks’ like Frisbee). It is commonly held that the CIA was behind
both the hippy movement and the Jesus Freaks.
Since the CIA is full of masons, this too fits. ■
INDIRECT: “[Billy] Graham [a mason] advocated persistently for the
‘Jesus Revolution’ in his Crusades of the early 1970s … and threw significant
support behind Explo ’72, the period’s ‘Christian Woodstock.’. The age’s young
radicals for Christ responded in kind” [Christ Armstrong, Christian History
Corner: “Tell Billy Graham the Jesus People Love Him.”, Christianity Today, posted ■
INDIRECT: [Mason] Billy Graham spoke six different times and gave the
closing sermon at Explo ’72 shortly after he had “penned a book affirming his
allegiance with ‘The Jesus Generation.’” [‘People and Faces’,
http//one-way.org/jesusmovement/index.html]. Graham called the event “a
Christian Woodstock” [Alvin L. Reid, The Spontaneous Generation: Lessons
from the Jesus Movement for Today, Journal of the ASCG – Volume 11 – Spring 2000].
Freemasons ==>> FullerTS ■
Charles E. Fuller’s Old Fashioned Revival
Hour Song Book No. 2 (The Rodeheaver, Hall-Mack Co., 1955) includes an
advert for the Billy Graham Crusade Song
Book.
Freemasons
==>> Hall, F. ■ INDIRECT: “Hall plagiarized Jane
Leade’s prophetic declarations and those of the Freemasons ==>> Jung, C. ■ Jung was associated with Alice Bailey (a co-mason)
- especially through their mutual involvement in the ERANOS Conferences [Morrison, op. cit., pp162-3,439]. Freemasons
==>> Kuhlman, K. ■ INDIRECT: Kuhlman “moved her services to the Shrine Auditorium (Freemasonic temple in ■ “[Mason] Oral Roberts ... mastered the medium of television and brought
together such unlikely ... personalities as ... Kathryn Kuhlman to preach the
new gospel of positive thinking” [Randall M. Miller, Theology Today - Vol 33, No. 4 - January 1977 - BOOK REVIEW All Things Are Possible: The Healing and
Charismatic Revivals in Modern America, By David Edwin Harrell, Jr., http://theologytoday.ptsem.edu/jan1977/v33-4-bookreview7.htm]. ■ “A major move in Kathryn Kuhlman’s ministry happened in
1965 when she began having monthly meetings in ■ INDIRECT: Kuhlman spoke at at least one ‘Full Gospel Business
Men’s Convention’ despite mason Oral Roberts being the co-founder [Hinn, Good Morning, Holy Spirit, (1991), p55]. ■ INDIRECT: “In 1972, ... Kathryn
received the first honorary doctorate awarded by Freemasons ==>> MacNutt, F. ■ “[H]ealing prayer was almost unheard of in most Christian churches. At
first it was the Pentecostals who rediscovered it. Then it was famous ‘faith healers’ like
[mason] Oral Roberts” [‘Piercing the Glass Ceiling’, by Francis MacNutt, taken from the Mar/Apr 2003 issue of his
newsletter]. Freemasons ==>> Schuller, R. ■ Schuller is a 33rd degree Mason [Burns, op. cit., p120]. See also www.apostasyrevealed.com/article_billyg.htm]. ■ Schuller’s mentor, Norman Vincent Peale, was a 33rd degree Mason [Burns, op. cit., p120]. ■
“One of Norman Vincent Peale's most ‘successful’ protégés is Robert Schuller.
(On Schuller’s 1000th Anniversary television show [The Hour of
Power, aired on ■
Proof that Robert Schuller is a 33rd degree mason comes from the following
source cited by Cathy Burns: “The Theology of Robert Schuller”, Christian
News ( ■ Schuller has a statue of self-confessed mason NVP in the grounds of his church building, and Schuller is called “the NVP of the West Coast” [Burns, op. cit., p113]. ■ “Schuller and Gorbachev gave an extended handshake which appeared to be Masonic in nature” [Burns, op. cit., p120]. ■ INDIRECT: Mormonism is the product of freemasons, yet Schuller has Mormons on his staff [Burns {}]. ■ “Robert Schuller [is] good friends with many 33rd Degree Freemasons such as ... John Wayne, W. Clement Stone and also Rich DeVos the founder and chairman of Amway Corporation” [www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/robert.htm]. ■
“In material that is authorized by Robert Schuller I’s {} ministry, it is
stated that Norman Vincent Peale was his mentor and ‘close friend’. For
documentation on this see Nason, Michael and Donna Nason, Robert Schuller: The Inside Story (Waco: Word Books, 1983, p. 61).
Schuller often praised Norman Vincent Peale - for instance, in his Hour of
Prophecy Show of did a
show on ■
“When 33rd Degree Freemason Robert Schuller wanted to express his secret
membership in the Lodge he used the 33rd Degree symbol of a double headed
eagle. He sent it out to many people who probably had no idea what he was
declaring to his Masonic brothers worldwide”
[www.acts2.com/thebibletruth/Exposing_Copeland.htm]. Freemasons ==>> Semple McPherson,
A. ■ William Booth, the founder of the Salvation Army, was a
mason, and “[Aimee’s] mother ‘Minnie’
had, in the footsteps of her foster parents, remained active with the Salvation
Army, and after a short recuperation Aimee joined her in this work” { } ■ Aimee was a friend of (mason) Douglas Fairbanks [David
Niven, Bring on the Empty Horses,
pp199-201]. ■ “At a pageant entitled ‘Cavalcade of Christianity’ held in
■ INDIRECT: Charlie Chaplin was a friend of the masonic W.R.
Hearst but was also a good friend of ASM [Niven, Bring on the Empty Horses, (UK edition, 1975), pp275 & 200
resp]. ■ INDIRECT: Mormonism was founded by a mason, yet ASM’s chief
personal counsel in preparation for the impending Grand Jury investigation into
her so-called kidnapping was a Mormon [Lately Thomas, The Vanishing Evangelist, (Heinemann, 1960), p120]. ■ ASM took part in a charity show at the Shrine Auditorium (Freemasonic temple in ■ WEAK, NOT ON
CHART: “By 1928, KELW had increased
power to 500 watts and famous personalities lined up to be heard, including
evangelist Aimee Semple McPherson and [masonic] humorist Will Rogers” {} ■ WEAK, NOT ON
CHART: “[Fox] Parham was a member of
the Freemasons, although according to Sarah, he withdrew when he started his
‘Full Gospel’ healing ministry. 11 However, on his return journey from
Jerusalem (1928) he brought a gavel and presented it to the Baxter Springs
Masonic Lodge.12 The Lodge was either Baxter Lodge No. 71 Ancient Free and
Accepted Masons, or Baxter Chapter No. 78, Royal Arch Masons.13 ... Parham
approved of women pastors, his own daughter-in-law having been a Pastor of an
Aimee Semple McPherson Four Square Church who continued as a preacher with her
husband” [seekgod.ca].
Freemasons
==>> Suenens, L. ■ Suenens was a Freemason
[Bulletin de l’Occident Chrétien Nr.12, July, 1976, (Directeur Pierre
Fautrad a Fye – 72490 Bourg Le Roi, as analysed by “The Enddays Ministry”. See also Cathy Burns, Billy Graham and His
Friends, (Sharing, 2001), p22]. ■ For evidence that Suenens was a mason, see: “Piers
Compton, The Broken Cross: The Hidden Hand in the Vatican, (Cranbrook,
Western Australia: Veritas Publishing Company Pty. Ltd., 1984), p.78” and “Jim
Shaw, ‘A Pontiff Mason’, (no other information available), p.3” [both cited by
Burns, Billy Graham, p22].
Freemasons ==>> Wierwille, V. ■ “In remembering Victor Paul Wierwille, many of us ... prefer to
remember the days when the Way was young and non-controversial, when he
conversed with men such as [mason] Oral Roberts”
[‘Remembering Victor Paul Wierwille’, Christian Heritage Online/Copyright
August 2002]. ■ Wierwille plagiarised [mason] Oral Roberts’s The
Red Thread in his book ‘Lifestyle of God’s Word’ [The Way Tree is Splintering, by John P. Juedes].
Freemasons
==>> Wimber, J. (/Vineyard) ■ INDIRECT: “‘[March 1977]…John [Wimber] announced on a Sunday
evening that the next weekend we were going to start the new church in Yorba
Linda Park, … It was raining the first day, so a Mason friend of John’s
gave him the keys to the Masonic lodge for his use. I wish I had a picture of
the two thrones, royal blue, ornate, and the pentegram [sic] in the royal blue
carpet. … John and Bob sat on thrones. I didn’t have a clue of what a pentegram
[sic] was, or what the Masonic lodge was, or what the thrones meant’”
[Testimony of Nancy Flint, as quoted in Dager, The Vineyard, p3]. ■ INDIRECT: 33rd degree Freemason Robert
Schuller listed John Wimber in his top ten ministers on the planet. Schuller endorses several masons who claim to
be ministers. For Wimber to appear in
his top ten without being a mason would be very
surprising [www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/robert.htm]. Note also that, as well as being very close,
Schuller and Wimber even decided to buy adjacent burial plots. ■ INDIRECT: A friend of ours contacted the ■ INDIRECT: The leaders of Promise
Keepers are from Vineyard, yet the PK lapel pin pictures a man undergoing the
1st degree initiation into Freemasonry (i.e. the left breast is bare; there
is a noose around the neck; and there is a dagger to the face). ■ INDIRECT: On a radio
show, an apologist for Vineyard has refused to denounce freemasonry and has
refused to deny that Christians cannot be Freemasons. Indeed he admitted to knowing several people
he considered Christians who were also masons [Scott Shaw, private letter on
file]. ■ Wimber has been influenced by [mason] Oral Roberts
[Wimber, Power Healing, pp182,
292-3]. ■ INDIRECT:
Hinn has greatly influenced Vineyard (e.g. Wimber and Arnott), yet he cited
mason Billy Graham positively in his book The
Blood published in 1993 [The
Confusing World of Benny Hinn, p77]. ■ INDIRECT: Hinn
has influenced Wimber, yet Hinn writes “During my ministry in ■ INDIRECT: Hinn
has been influenced by Knight Templar Andrew White and by mason Oral Roberts
(who calls Hinn ‘God’s man for our time’ [The
Many Faces of Benny Hinn, video: The Door]. Frisbee, Lonnie [Click here for details of this name]
Frisbee ==>> Alpha ■ Frisbee was on the
June 1982 Vineyard tour of the ■ INDIRECT: Lonnie was a member of John McClure’s church (Newport
Beach Vineyard), and McClure visited HTB in 1986 with Wimber. ■ INDIRECT: David di Sabatino says it was Blaine Cook who prayed over
Gumbel in 1982, but Blaine Cooke’s ‘anointing’ came directly from Lonnie. ■ INDIRECT: Lonnie influenced Watson who influenced HTB.
Frisbee ==>> Cain, P.
/K.C.P. ■ INDIRECT, POST-1992: Jill Austin cites Frisbee as the key to her
conversion, yet she works with Bickle and Goll of KCF
[www.masterpotter.com/newsletters/article.asp?id=78]. Jill Austin and Mike Bickle are both on the
staff of the ‘International House of Prayer Missions Base’ {} ■
INDIRECT: “I started attending a Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa home
fellowship in
Frisbee ==>> Wagner,
C.P. ■
INDIRECT: Terry J. Herber III toured Europe with Frisbee but
CPW later went to Terry for words of knowledge when they were both members of
the ‘onetwenty’ fellowship within a large church in Pasadena. (Herber then stabbed his mother twice in the
back, turned her around and stabbed her a further 32
times in the front, killing her. The
knife was so long that it went all the way through her.) {} Frisbee
==>> Wimber,
J. (/Vineyard) ■ “These various
manifestations within what Wimber calls ‘cosmic reality’ are revealed to him
through the early experiences that he had while Lonnie Frisbee was
associated with him” [Goodwin, op. cit., p28] ■ “The concept of
power evangelism, … originated with John Wimber, Blaine Cook, and Lonnie
Frisbee in the Vineyard in 1982” [Goodwin, op.
cit., p25] ■ “On Mothers’ Day 1978, [actually 1980] …
Lonnie Frisbee was hesitantly invited to preach … by Pastor John Wimber. ... [At]
the closing of that momentous service: ‘… [Frisbee prayed] the words,
‘Come, Holy Spirit!’ What followed was electrifying. .
. the young people fell on the floor, some crying out noisily. One young man
seemed to be flung forward in such a way that his mouth was jammed over the
microphone. … Pendemonium
[sic] errupted. … Amazed at what was transpiring before his eyes,
Wimber talked about the phenomenon with [Chuck] Smith … About this time,
Wimber’s ministry became more focused on ‘signs and wonders’’” [David
DiSabatino, History of the Jesus Movement, Chapter III: The Jesus People
Movement (1967 - 1973), www.caicusa.org/biblebase/cog-family/jesusmovementhistory.html]. ■
“Beginning
some time in September of ’76, Bob Fulton, Carol Wimber, Carl Tuttle, along
with others, began assembling at the home of Carl Tuttle’s sister. The agenda was simple: praying, worshipping
and seeking the Lord. By the time I
[Wimber] came several months later, the Spirit of God was already moving
powerfully. There was a great brokenness
and responsiveness in the hearts of many.
This evolved into what became our church on Mother’s Day in 1977. Soon God began dealing with me about the work
of the Spirit related to healing. I
began teaching in these areas. Over the
next year and a half God began visiting in various and sundry ways. There were words of knowledge, healing,
casting out of demons, and conversions.
Later we saw an intensification of this when Lonnie Frisbee came and ministered.
Lonnie had been a Calvary Chapel pastor and evangelist, being used
mightily in the Jesus People Movement.
After our Sunday morning service on Mother’s Day 1979, I was walking out
the door behind Lonnie, and the Lord told me “Ask that young man to give his
testimony tonight.” I hadn’t even met
him, though I knew who he was and how the Lord had used him in the past. That night, after he gave his testimony,
Lonnie asked the Holy Spirit to come and the repercussions were incredible. The Spirit of God literally knocked people
to the floor and shook them silly”
[http://s88932719.onlinehome.us/religion/renew1.txt]. ■
Frisbee
was so important to Wimber that an entire 16-page appendix solely about him
forms part of an in-house history of the Vineyard [The Quest for the Radical
Middle by Bill Jackson]. “He
[Frisbee] played a crucial role in the rocketing advance of both Calvary Chapel
and the Vineyard” [Bill Jackson, op. cit.,
p392]. He was “influential in the
beginnings of the Vineyard church
movement from 1980 to 1983, providing the then leader John Wimber with a model
of Pentecostal experimentalism … His influence … was integral to [Vineyard’s] periods of rapid transformation and church
growth” [Bill Jackson, op. cit.,
p393]. “Kenn Gulliksen, early member of
the Calvary Chapel pastoral staff and FOUNDER of the Vineyard churches, cites
Frisbee as “MENTORING him in the ‘deeper things’ of the Holy Spirit” [Bill
Jackson, op. cit, p394]. Fuller Seminary
[Click here for details of this name] Fuller Seminary ==>> Alpha ■ In 1984 Fuller professor Lewis Smedes
published a book entitled Sex for
Christians. In Gumbel’s 1994 book Searching
Issues [p56] he recommends this book – albeit the 1993 edition of this
book. ■ The book I Believe in Church Growth by Fuller’s
Eddie Gibbs is positively cited in the very first edition of Gumbel’s book Questions of Life, p251, fn37. ■ Lewis
Smedes is cited positively on pages 228 and 229 of Gumbel’s book Challenging
Lifestyle. ■ PROBABLY
POST-1992: Lewis Smede’s 1993 book sex
for Christians is favourably quoted by Gumbel three times in his work Challenging Lifestyle [p262]. ■ Gumbel quotes favourably a 1974 book by
Fuller’s George Eldon Ladd [Gumbel, A Life Worth
Living, p75, first published in 1994].
(Later editions of Ladd’s book were released, strongly
suggesting that Gumbel had read the 1974 edition before 1993.) ■ POSSIBLY
POST-1992: HTB includes an endorsement of Alpha from Eddie Gibbs (whom they
describe as ‘professor of World Mission, Fuller Institute of Theology’), in Telling Others, (2001 edition), p5. ■ POST-1992:
Fuller Theological Seminary sponsored no fewer than FOURTEEN Alpha conferences
in ■ INDIRECT:
Mel White has ghostwritten for Billy Graham [a mason – click
here for evidence] (whom HTB endorses) but was a Fuller
Seminary professor for 14 years [Burns, Billy Graham…, p375] ■ INDIRECT:
Jay Gary has worked for Fuller, yet he is endorsed by Billy Graham and Bill
Bright – both of whom are endorsed by HTB. ■
INDIRECT: Bill Bright has influenced
Alpha, yet “Dr. Bright pursued graduate studies at … Fuller Theological”
[Bright, Revolution Now!, (Campus Crusade, 1969), Back
cover].
Fuller Seminary ==>> Cain, P./KCP ■ Regarding Fuller’s George Eldon Ladd and
Ralph Winter, an ex-KCF member recalls, “I am certain that leadership read
extensively books by them. Winter was talked about
more” [Don Bell, personal email on file]. ■ POST-1992:
“OCM has been distributing a promotional audio cassette titled ‘Christianity in
a New Key: an Introduction to The Future Church’. It includes statements by …
[Fuller’s] Jay Grimstead [sic], … Kansas City Fellowship prophet Mike Bickle, …
[and KCP member] Rick Joyner” [www.banner.org.uk/apostasy/cell-church6.htm]. ■ POSSIBLY
POST-1992: Bickle quotes Fuller’s Eldon Ladd approvingly [Bickle, Growing
in the Prophetic, p28]. Fuller Seminary
==>> Foster, R. /Renovaré ■ On Renovaré’s steering committee (aside from Wagner - see
above) are the following - all from Fuller (FTS): “Isaac Canales, Ass. Dir.
Hispanic Ministries, FTS; David Allan Hubbard, President [of FTS];
Robert Munger, Prof. Emeritus evangelism and Church Strategy, FTS; William E. Pannell,
Dir. Black Ministries. FTS; Siang Yang-Tan, Direc. Dr. of Psychology Program,
FTS” [See Al Dager, Media Spotlight Special Report: Renovaré] ■ “On Renovaré’s Board of Reference is: C. Peter
Wagner, FTS” [withchrist.org/MJS/renovaré.htm] ■ “On Renovare’s Steering Committee are: Patricia
Rexroat, Director, Extended Education in ■ “[The] First sermon [in the tape series] is by
Richard Foster on ‘Fasting in the 20th Century’ [and] was
preached at Fuller Theological Seminary” Ca. 1984 [Records of Christianity
Today]. ■
Siang
Yang Tan has been a Board member of Renovare since 1997
[www.fuller.edu/provost/pdf/Tan_03.pdf], but is also “professor of psychology
in Fuller's ■
“Siang Yang Tan, director of the Doctor of Psychology program at Fuller
Seminary, was one of the attendees of the national conference on Personal
Spiritual Renewal in October 1991. It was hosted by Renovaré,
an organization founded by Richard Foster”
[http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/unbeliefat.htm]. Fuller Seminary
==>> Pytches, D. ■ Pytches recommends three books by Fuller’s
George Eldon Ladd [D.Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, p22]. See also the three references to Fuller on
p15 and the three on p16 of that book. ■ See
also entry ‘Pytches ==> Fuller’. Fuller Seminary
==>> Wagner, C. P. ■ “Nancy Flint has done some tremendous
research on Fuller Seminary. … Among those … connected with Fuller included
Henrietta Meers [sic], Harold Ockenga, Armand Gastwein, Charles Fuller, Ralph
Winter, David du Plessis, JohnWimber, Geo. Eldon Ladd, Arthur Glasser, Charles
Kraft, Richard Foster, Jay Grimstad, Billy Graham, Bill Bright, C. Peter
Wagner” [{}] ■ Wagner was for years a lecturer at Fuller. Fuller Seminary
==>> Wimber, J. (/Vineyard) ■ “Wimber … began to draw
conclusions based on … the input of C.Peter Wagner and others at
Fuller’s ■ “[I]n 1982, Wimber was invited back to Fuller
to teach a course … During the three years in which the course ran…” [Hilborn, op. cit., p6]. ■ “In 1974 Wimber left the pastorate of Yorba
Linda Friends Church to join the staff of the Charles E. Fuller Institute of
Evangelism and Church Growth at Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena,
California” [Dager, The Vineyard, p1]. ■ Wimber … says he was influenced
while at Fuller Seminary: ‘Dr. Donald McGavran [of Fuller] … inspired in me a fierce
pragmatism. I knew after exposure to him I would never again be satisfied with
church life as I had known it’” [MacArthur, op. cit., p170]. ■
Vineyard’s
John McClure was hired as Wimber’s assistant at Fuller [ ■
Wimber cites Fuller’s McGavran approvingly twice in one book [Power Evangelism,
(Hodder and Stoughton, 1985), p185], and Eldon Ladd SIX times [Ibid, pp173-6]. Indeed an entire chapter of Wimber’s book is
“based on material gleaned from the writings of George Ladd and James Kallas” [Ibid, p173]. ■ “I was
offered a position as the founding director of the Depsrtment of Church growth
at what is now called the Charles E. Fuller Institute of Evangelism and Church
growth … I met professors like … C. Peter Wagner, Charles Kraft” [John Wimber, Power Healing, pp47,48]. Hall, Franklin
[Click here for details of this name] Hall ==>>
Branham, W. /LR ■ “[M]any ‘faith healers’ of the Latter Rain Movement publicly
acknowledged their dependence, [on Hall’s book] Atomic Power With God Through Fasting and Prayer” [Dager, Vengeance is Ours, p53]. ■ “In 1948, Branham … was greatly influenced by Franklin Hall’s teachings” [Dager, Vengeance
is Ours, p55]. ■ “Branham … was warmly received by … the man
from whom Branham gleaned many of his beliefs, Franklin Hall” [Dager, Vengeance is Ours, p58]. ■ “Franklin Hall’s teachings also influenced
the ■
INDIRECT: Hall worked with Jack Walker,
father of “little David” Walker, but Branham once said “When they had a little
boy raised up sometime ago, and I went to see the
little lad about ten or twelve years ago... His name was little David Walker, a
wonderful little preacher. He didn’t tell little stories like mama had coaxed
him, how Jesus a little baby. He took off his coat, and took a text, and
handled it like a man.” For more on “little David”, see:
www.biblemissions.org/biography.htm Hall ==>>
Kuhlman, K. ■ “In the fall of 1946, a ‘major fasting and prayer daily
revival center’ was established … [u]nder the leadership of Franklin Hall
… Other ministers who helped establish the … center were Dr. [Burroughs A.] Waltrip [Snr.] (husband of Kathryn Kuhlman)” [Dager, Vengeance is Ours, p49]. Jesuits/Rome [For extensive
details about this subject please see our “World” volume. Click
here
for details] N.B. All the links
in this section are APART from any influence by Catholics ON THE CHART (i.e.
Teilhard, Scanlan, Suenens, Bertolucci, MacNutt). Jesuits/Rome ==>> Alpha ■ Gumbel’s very first edition of Questions
of Life (1993) showed numerous influences from ■ POST-1992:
From HTB’s tape library: Raniero Cantalamessa,
Charles Whitehead, Patrick Dixon. ■
“Chuck
Colson recently visited the Pope in ■ POST-1992:
Catholic influence on HTB is clear from every issue of Alpha News
now. Indeed, there is far too much Roman
influence to list it all. See the World
volume of our book Alpha: The Unofficial Guide. Click
here
for details. ■ POSSIBLY
POST-1992: Gumbel cites the ■ POSSIBLY
POST-1992: In the very first edition
of Gumbel’s book Telling Others he twice quotes the Catholic phrase ‘Decade of
Evangelism’ with great approval [(Kingsway, 1994), pp14, 97]. This book also contains the very pro-Catholic
testimony of a lady called Mary Stephenson whose mother was a “devout Catholic”
and yet is unreservedly praised by Gumbel [p73]. ■ INDIRECT: Wilkerson has influenced Alpha, yet “David Wilkerson
speaks about going to see a [Catholic] woman of God named Mother Basilea
Schlink. He said that the moment he entered the room he could feel the presence
of the Lord” [Hinn, Good Morning, Holy
Spirit, (1991), p57]. ■
“Nicky Gumbel, pioneer of the Alpha
course, said: ‘We have had a long standing admiration and love for Fr. Raniero.
I first heard him speak at a conference in Jesuits/Rome
==>> Assagioli, R. ■ Assagioli “was
educated at a Catholic boarding school - his parents were both pious Catholics”
[www.kirjasto.sci.fi/croce.htm]. Jesuits/Rome
==>> Bertolucci, J. ■ Bertolucci is a Roman Catholic priest. Jesuits/Rome
==>> Boehme, J. /Leade, J. ■ “Boehme’s
doctrines were the result of believing the alchemistical heresies of a German
occult doctor named Paracelsus (1493-1541). His (Paracelsus’) full name was Theophrastus ■ “Boehme ... had to have read
Paracelsus’ books and Valentin Weigel [who was Paracelist]” [Researcher
in ■
INDIRECT: Jane Leade was a member of the Jesuits/Rome ==>> Branham, W.
/LR ■ “You need me, and I need
you. God needs both of us. Let’s join our
hearts and efforts together. Let’s not think because we’re Nazarene, Pilgrim
Holiness, Catholic, Presbyterian, Pentecostals, or what we are; let’s be
Christians. Let’s discern the Body of
the Lord” [ ■ “The succession of prophets according to Branham
are: The Apostle Paul, Irenaeus, Saint Martin-- A
Roman Catholic flake, Columba...”
[http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/branham.htm]. ■ “I’m an old fashion
[sic] Catholic” [W. Branham, ‘It Was Not So From The
Beginning’, nathan.co.za]. ■ “[T]here’s not a greater society in the world than the society of Jesus Christ” [W. Branham, ‘Expectation’, nathan.co.za]. [Note that the full name of the Jesuits is “The Society of Jesus”.] ■ “[T]he redeemed from the foundation of the world.
That’s the society of Jesus Christ. Amen.” [W.
Branham, ‘The Unchangeable Word Of God’,
nathan.co.za]. ■ “Balaam went wildly down the road until an angel from
God stood in his way. But that prophet (bishop, cardinal, chairman,
president and general overseer) was so blinded to Spiritual things by the
thought of honor and glory and money” [W. Branham, ‘The Doctrine of the
Nicolaitanes’, nathan.co.za]. ■ “There’s one combination of power, and the other one is Catholicism and communism coming together. One against Christ, the other, the Catholic church” [W. Branham, ‘Experiences #2’, nathan.co.za]. ■ “I wouldn't mean to speak evil of ... the Catholics,
because there’s Catholic people who I believe are saved. God has so... made it
so simple to us that, “He that believeth on Me...”
See? And there’s many of them, you... I
wouldn’t believe the system of the Catholic church,
but I believe in the Catholic people. I don’t believe in the system
of ... the Baptists, or Presbyterian, or even the Pentecostals, sometime, but I
believe in their people, because they are my brothers and sisters” [W.
Branham, ‘I Will Restore’, nathan.co.za]. ■ “I was given the privilege to be interviewed by the
Pope, when I was in ■ “‘…Go.’ That’s the message. That’s the
message for the ministers today. Don’t stop for for [sic] the social parties
and things, … The message is urgent. People are dead
in sin and trespasses. We ain’t got no time to argue
theology: Are you Methodist? Baptist? Catholic? That doesn’t make any difference” [W. Branham, ‘Blind
Bartimaeus’, nathan.co.za]. ■ “Now, with your hands on each other, let’s
bow our heads. … Our heavenly Father, we bring to You
this great line of sick people. … And now, they are laying their hands on one another.
Look at them, Lord. One’s interested in the other one. One what’s to know,
regardless of what church they belong to, what affiliation they have, what
color they are, or what creed they… That has nothing to do with it, Lord. They are Your
children. Some of them are Methodists, some belong to Baptists, some belong to
Presbyterian, maybe some Catholic, I
don’t know. Some are Pentecostal, but You don’t know
them by that name. You know them as Yours. They’re blood
bought, and they’re standing here believing the Word, and they’re coming
boldly” [W. Branham, ‘Condemnation By Representation’,
Nathan.co.za]. ■ INDIRECT: Branham accepted Billy
Graham, at a time when Graham was already happy to work with, and even endorse,
■ Branham healed Catholics without telling them to repent of their idolatry first! Clearly he did not think Catholicism was idolatrous. ■ “[Y]ou talk about
clans. Why, you holler about the Catholic. Why,
you’re the same thing
(See?), just exactly the same. Pot can’t call kettle black. You
know that’s right. Why, it’s the same thing, exactly; because isn’t one God the
Father of us all? Why would our
denominations separate us?” [W. Branham, ‘Behold, A Greater Than Solomon Is Here’, www.genesistabernacle.com/williambranhammp3]. ■
“[T]he faith don’t lie in the fundamental church, or
don’t-- lies in the Pentecostal church, or the Holiness church. It lays
in an individual. I’ve seen a Roman Catholic come to the platform and be healed
miraculously with things” [ ■
“I was
raised of a poor parent. ... My people before me,
[were] Catholic” [ ■
■
According to “Spenlake”, Larry Alberts
“comes from a Catholic background”, yet is now hooked up with the Latter Rain
and has ‘restored’ Bob Jones and is currently in charge of restoring active
homosexual Paul Cain {} Jesuits/Rome
==>> Cain, P. /KCP ■ The founder of the KCP, Mike Bickle, is an ‘ex’ Roman
Catholic [Hilborn, op. cit., p9]. Although his book Growing in
the Prophetic (Kingsway Publications Ltd., Eastbourne, UK, 1995) hides this
fact. ■ “One bizarre prophecy [from KCP’s
Bob Jones] confirmed the [Romish] concept of vicarious sacrifices
provided by someone other than Jesus” [Dager., Vengeance
is Ours, p139]. ■ Rick Joyner has admitted that he has become a knight of ■ According to “Spenlake”, Larry Alberts “comes from a Catholic background”, yet
is now hooked up with the Latter Rain and has ‘restored’ Bob Jones and is
currently in charge of restoring active homosexual Paul Cain {} ■ POST 1992: Hinn is a Romanist and the KCP’s John Paul Jackson has
appeared on Hinn’s TV show [new-wine-scotland.org]. ■ POSSIBLY POST-1992: Bickle cites “Pope” Militiades as being part of
the “early church” and a man of godly wisdom [Growing in the Prophetic,
pp206-7]. Bickle also cites the Catholic Catherine of Siena as one of the
“outstanding examples of spirituality” and a “Doctor of the Church and a lover
of God” [Growing in the Prophetic, p208]. ■ POSSIBLY
POST-1992: Bickle cites “St. Teresa of Avila” as being someone who knew
“the operation of the Holy Spirit’s presence” upon her, and that her church
(Rome) is a “branch of the Christian Church” [Ibid , pp230-1]. ■ POST-1992: Rick Joyner has famously become a Knight of Malta. This is a CATHOLIC organization. Jesuits/Rome
==>> Carter-Stapleton, R. ■ “I was genuinely delighted years ago to discover
that … Ruth Carter Stapleton, was in the process of discovering Mary's
spiritual maternity .... Cf. Ruth Carter Stapleton, The Gift of Inner
Healing (New York: Bantam Books, 1977) 52-4” [‘Msgnr’ Arthur Calkins,
www.christendom-awake.org/pages/calkins/imac.html]. ■ Stapleton has described a case she knew
where someone called upon Jesus for healing but he supposedly failed to bring
it “so Mary was called upon and she was successful” [Burns, op.
cit., p352]. Stapleton also
“explains how one should use repetition [i.e. just like ■ “ECUMENICAL CHARISMATIC RENEWAL CONFERENCE, Jesuits/Rome
==>> Copeland, K. /Hagin, K. ■ Hagin shared a platform with Father Ralph
DiOrio at the FGBMFI’s ‘Year of Thanksgiving’ conference held in Anaheim,
California in 1987 [D. Meyer, Video: Witchcraft and Secret Societies in the
Church and State, Part One]. ■
POST-1992: “Celebrate Jesus 2000 This super ecumenical event
features several Catholic and charismatic speakers, at ■
INDIRECT: At the age of two, Benny
Hinn was enrolled into a Catholic school and was trained by nuns, and later, by
monks for fourteen years. See also The Confusing World of Benny Hinn for
more Romish links. ■
Copeland was a speaker at the Jesuits/Rome ==>> ■ Steve Clark and
Ralph Martin (both Catholics and important parts of the Catholic ‘Renewal’
movement) had contacts with Bob Mumford from the early 70’s. By 1974, all 3 of
these men (plus the other 4 of the FL5, plus John Poole) started a secret
“Council” [Dager., Vengeance is Ours, p78]. ■ “As early as 1974, Bob Mumford,
… entered into a ‘covenant relationship’ with Ralph Martin and Steve Clark,
founders of the Word of God Catholic charismatics in Ann Arbor,
Michigan…. Their alliance was called ‘The Council’ and ‘its purpose was to
strengthen the shepherding system across the denominational lines.’ By
the mid-1970’s, the Council had expanded to include Catholic shepherding
stalwarts, Paul DeCelles and Kevin Ranaghan” [Ibid] ■ ‘The North American
Congress’ saw Mumford cooperating with Catholics. {} ■ “In 1967 we participated in the
outpouring of the Holy Spirit among the Catholics,
at Duquesne University in Pittsburgh … that opened a whole new sphere of God's
goodness as well as new insights as to Catholic spirituality” [Bob Mumford,
‘About Bob and Judith Mumford’, www.lifechangers.org] ■ “The first conference of
Lutheran/Catholics that I spoke at was held in ■ “GENERAL COUNCIL MEETING, ■ “More and more we’re
fellowshipping and flowing with our Catholic
brothers and sisters, and they’re flowing with us. … I was in ■ “Charles Simpson claimed in 1972 that ‘The Catholic
Tradition tends to produce a few spiritual giants [by which he means the
mystics], whereas the evangelical tradition produces a lot of spiritual
babies.’ The Pentecostal teacher, Derek Prince, in the same year, wrote: ‘One
of the corroborations of my conviction that it is God’s purpose to form bodies
is the entry of so many Roman Catholics into the charismatic renewal... They are
way ahead of many Protestants in this regard; we Protestants are learning much
from them’” [‘THE EVANGELICAL ATTRACTION TO MYSTICISM’, Alan Morrison { }]. ■ Derek Prince approvingly quotes the Roman Catholic
Jerusalem Bible [Faith To
Live By, p62]. ■ Don Basham says “One night in a high school in Buffalo,
New York, I spoke to a gathering of about three hundred CHRISTIANS, mostly
Roman Catholic, on the theme of the charismatic renewal … At the encouragement
of the PRIEST I agreed to remain after the meeting…” [Deliver Us From Evil, p148]. ■ Basham writes: “[T]he charismatic revival has spilled over the boundaries so
carefully drawn about it by its critics and is igniting fires in all major
denominations, including the Roman Catholic. Bishop Lesslie Newbigin, a former
president of the World Council of Churches, was one of the first outstanding
churchmen to acknowledge the significance of this movement. He places it on an
equal footing with traditional Protestantism and Roman Catholicism. In his
book, The Household of God, he wrote: ‘Catholicism and Orthodox Protestantism,
however deeply they have differed from one another, have been at one in laying
an immense stress on that in the Christian religion which is given and
unalterable... Catholicism has laid its primary stress upon the given
structure, Protestantism upon the given message.... It is necessary, however,
to recognize that there is a third stream of Christian tradition which ... has
a distinct character of its own ... its central element is the conviction that
the Christian life is a matter of the experienced power and presence of the
Holy Spirit today . . . that if we would answer the question, “Where is the
Church?” we must ask, “Where is the Holy Spirit recognizably present with
power?”... for want of a better word I propose to
refer to this type of Christian faith and life as the Pentecostal’” [Don
Basham, Handbook On Holy Spirit Baptism,
Whitaker House, 1984]. ■
Basham promotes Catholi8c charismaticism on pages 161-4 of his book Face Up With A Miracle. According to his testimony, Basham appears to
have been the direct cause of the Duqesne ‘outpouring’ in 1967. ■ INDIRECT: Bob Mumford
recounts some of the history of his personal involvement in Shepherding in the
article ‘Forty years later.’: “...we also became involved in the
Charismatic Renewal because of the vision imparted to me by [observer of ■ POST-1992?:
Mumford’s main website includes a photograph of him greeting John Paul II. ■ POST-1992: Several agreed fellow
speakers with Mumford's close associate Charles Simpson at the WISDOM 2001
conference in Minneapolis were Catholics, viz: Steve Clark, ‘Fr.’ Bob
DeGrandis, Bishop Sam Jacobs and Judith Church Tydings [Tillin,
www.cephasministry.com/word_of_faith_prosperity_teachings.html]. Jesuits/Rome
==>> Foster, R. /Renovaré ■ “Richard Foster, … freely confessed to
being influenced by … the Spiritual Exercises of [Jesuit]
Ignatius Loyola” [Morrison, op. cit., p432] - see Celebration of
Discipline, p22 [Wendy Howard cites this in A Critique On The Ministry
Of Richard Foster] ■ In Celebration of Discipline,
p22, Foster writes “Ignatius of Loyola in his Spiritual Exercises constantly encourages his readers to
visualise the Gospel stories … [H]is thin volume of meditation exercises with
its stress on the imagination had tremendous
impact for good upon the 16th century” [quoted in Dager, MS Special
Report: Renovare, p3]. ■ “Foster lauds as a great Christian brother the
pope … During the [Winter 1991] conference, Richard Foster extolled
the virtues of Roman Catholicism and Pope John Paul II” [Dager,
MS Special Report: Renovare, p14]. ■ ■ “Foster sees … [the Romanists]
Julian of Norwich … John of the Cross … [and] Madame Guyon [as
examples to emulate]” [Yungen, op. cit., p72] ■ In Celebration of Discipline
Foster favourably quotes the 12th century Catholic Benedictine
monk, Peter of Celles (p15) and the 14th century Catholic
mystic, Richard Rolle (p21) [Dager, MS Special Report: Renovare,
p2]. ■ On the
audiotape Renovare: A Balanced Vision, (1991), Foster says “I began to study in the
contemplative tradition. I’d read The
Little Flowers of St. Francis – it would absolutely blow my mind”
[quoted in Dager, MS Special Report: Renovare, p8]. Foster has stated:
“St Francis (Catholic mystic) said: ‘Always preach Christ and if
necessary use words.’” [Interview with Amazon – see A Critique On The Ministry Of Richard Foster, by Wendy Howard.] ■ INDIRECT: ■ POST-1992: During
Foster’s visit to ■ “Foster asks rhetorically, ‘What is the goal
of Contemplative Prayer?’ And he answers, ‘To this
question the old writers answer with one voice: union with God. Bonaventure, a
follower of [Catholic] Saint Francis, says that our final goal is “union with
God,” which is a pure relationship where we see “nothing.”’” [Foster, Richard
J., Prayer: Finding the Heart’s True Home (San Francisco: Harper,
1992) p.159, as quoted by Richard Bennett in ‘The Mystic Plague’,
www.bereanbeacon.org]. ■ POST-1992: Foster writes: “we began
experiencing that ‘sweet sinking into Deity’ [that Catholic mystic]
Madame Guyon speaks of. It, very honestly, had much the same ‘feel’ and ‘smell’
as the experiences I had been reading about in the Devotional Masters” [Renovare Perspective
magazine, January 1998, as quoted by Lighthouse Trails]. ■ Foster gives an astonishingly fulsome defence
of all four parts of [Jesuit founder] Loyola’s ‘Spiritual Exercises’
[Foster, Prayer, pp62-63]. ■ “A large
part of Renovaré’s spiritual disciplines involve meditation on the writings of
selected spiritual masters associated with the ‘Christian’ contemplative
tradition. Most, of course, are Roman Catholic, particularly
those mystics from the fourth through the fifteenth century … [including]
Thomas Merton, Julian of Norwich, Teresa of Avila and Francis of Assisi”
[Dager, MS Special Report: Renovaré, pp8,10]. ■ “A speaker at Renovaré’s October 1991
conference in Kansas City was the Roman Catholic nun, Sister Thomas
Bernard of the order of St. Joseph of Carondolet. Bernard is actively pursuing
dialogue with Buddhism … In her message to the Conference … she extolled
the doctrine of [Catholic] John of the Cross whom she called,
‘one of the great Spanish mystics of the 16th century’. According to
Bernard, John of the Cross ‘built his whole spirituality on the concept
of the Nada and the Todo – the Nothing and the All.’ … It is essentially
Buddhist” [Dager, MS Special Report: Renovaré, p14]. ■ Members of Renovare’s Original Steering
Committee include Sister Thomas Bernard - Director, The Spirituality Center,
Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles, and ‘Rev.Msgr’
Royale M. Vadakin - Director, Commission on Ecumenical & Interreligious
Affairs, Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles [Dager, MS Special Report, Renovaré,
p15]. ■ Emilie Griffin, a Roman Catholic, is a
member of Renovaré’s Ministry Team [www.renovarés.org/invitation_ministry_team_list_1.htm]. ■ Karen Mains is on Renovaré’s Board of
Reference and yet her ‘spiritual director’ is a Catholic nun. Mains has also
attended a “Catholic contemplative retreat center” [Beard,
www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/mains, as quoted by J. Sundquist, email on file]. ■ “[Renovaré’s] Vaswig … was trained in the religious
disciplines … by the Shalem Institute for Spiritual Formation, ■ “In both of his addresses to the Renovare
Conference in October, 1991, Vaswig mentioned his education at the Shalem
Institute in Washington, D.C., and that his professor there is Gerald May …
[who teaches] a course entitled ‘Pure Contemplative Presence’. The course
description states: ‘Insights and support for our presence together will be
drawn from Christian contemplative and Tibetan Buddhist rDzogs-chen
(Mahamudra) traditions’ (Shalem Institute for Spiritual Formation,
Winter 1991 Catalog).’ This particular course was taught at Bon Secours
Spiritual Center … a Roman Catholic spiritual center at which the Shalem Institute holds many
of its courses ” [Dager, MS Special Report, Renovaré, p12]. ■
Foster
has been influenced by the Jesuit Jean-Pierre de Caussade [James Sundquist,
email on file]. Jesuits/Rome ==>> Fox, G.
/Quakers ■ “Robert Barclay
was educated at a Roman Catholic college in ■ The
book “A Guide to True Peace, or the Excellency of Inward and Spiritual
Prayer” is a “Perennial devotional classic compiled by Quakers from
writings of Catholic mystics” [www.pym.org/library/lists/corecol.htm]. ■ The
book “Catholic Quakerism: A Vision for All Men” by Lewis
Benson (1966) is “important” to “many” Quakers [{}]. ■ Fox was able to secure the
release of two Quakers who were imprisoned by the Roman Inquisition in ■ Interestingly,
17th century opponents of the Quakers accused them of being “Catholic
agents” [pro-Quaker website
www.fgcquaker.org/library/welcome/whalen2.html]. “One pamphlet published in 1654 [7 years
after Fox began preaching] was entitled ‘The Quakers Unmasked, and clearly
detected to be but the Spawn of Romish Frogs, Jesuits and Franciscan
Fryers…’” [Ibid]. ■ POST-1992: “Dr James Hurley is Emeritus Professor of
Management Education, a psychologist, a Quaker and a Roman Catholic. He has a particular interest in workplace
spirituality, ethical dilemmas and adult faith development” { } Jesuits/Rome ==>> Freemasons [For extensive details about ■ Jesuits took over
freemasonry via the Illuminati. See
Appendix C of the Overview volume of our book Alpha: The Unofficial
Guide. ■ A
photograph exists of John Paul II clearly giving the 3rd degree Masonic handshake to Archbishop Charles
Salacka (a Jesuit?) [D.Meyer, Video: Witchcraft and Secret Societies in the
Church and State, Part One]. ■ In 1984 John Paul II received the Beni-Brith
freemasonic lodge of
Jesuits/Rome ==>> Frisbee,
L. ■
INDIRECT: Ted Wise was close
to Frisbee, yet seemingly has no problem with Catholicism, judging by his
comments in www.pbc.org/dp/wise/week220.html. ■
INDIRECT:
“In
his book, Answers For Today (copyright 1993), [Chuck] Smith [who was
very influential on Frisbee] says the following, ‘Paul points out that some say, “I’m
of Paul,” while others say, “I’m of Apollos.” He asked, “Isn’t that carnal?” But what’s the difference between saying that or saying, “I’m a Baptist,” “I’m a Presbyterian,” “I’m a
Methodist,” “I’m a Catholic”? ... We
should realize that we’re all part
of the Body of Christ ... We’re all
one. What a glorious day when we discover that God loves the Baptists! - And
the Presbyterians, and the Methodists, and the Catholics. We’re all His
and we all belong to Him. We see the
whole Body of Christ, and we begin to strive together rather than striving
against one another. (p. 157)’” [‘Chuck Smith & Calvary
Chapel’, www.atruechurch.info].
Jesuits/Rome ==>> FullerTS ■
Ralph
Winter was an important staff member at Fuller, yet he writes: “In to insist that the Jewish tradition was still
perfectly legitimate. Equally, he insisted that the Greek followers of Christ were legitimate”
[www.missionfrontiers.org/1997/0506/mj971.htm]. ■
Ralph
Winter submitted a paper to the 1974 ■
Jay Gary has been part of Fuller, yet he was mentored by Robert Muller (a
Catholic) [Burns, Billy Graham…., p133].
(Ralph Winter is closely connected to Fuller but “In 1978 ■
“During the 1984-85 school year, Raymond Brown was a lecturer at Fuller
Seminary. Brown was a liberal Roman Catholic”
[www.wayoflife.org/fbns/unbeliefat.htm]. ■
“In November 1986, Fuller Seminary opened the David du Plessis Center for
Christian Spirituality. Du Plessis, who died in 1987, was a key figure in
breaking down the walls of separation between Pentecostals and theological
modernists and Roman Catholics. He was the only Pentecostal invited to attend
the Catholic Vatican II Council in the 1960s, and he claimed that God melted
his resistance to the mass, prayers to Mary, and other Catholic dogmas. In
fact, he was deluded and was following Pentecostal “visions and voices” more
than the Scriptures. Du Plessis was the only non-Roman
Catholic ever to receive the Benemerenti Award, the highest honor that a pope
can bestow” [www.wayoflife.org/fbns/unbeliefat.htm]. ■ “Fuller Seminary has held ecumenical talks
with the Roman Catholic Church since 1987. In 2001 the committee in charge of the talks
got two congregations to join in the dialogue by sharing in a common worship
service (Calvary Contender, Aug. 1,
2001)” [www.wayoflife.org/fbns/unbeliefat.htm]. ■
“One of the first Roman Catholic students
to attend Fuller was Paul Ford, who went on to become a professor of theology
and liturgy at St. John’s Seminary in Camarillo, California. In Fuller
Seminary’s alumni paper Theology, News and Notes for March 1993, Ford describes
his experience at Fuller and described how pro-Catholic it was. He said Fuller
professors David Hubbard and Jack Rogers visited his Catholic monastery and
that Fuller professor Paul Jewett was a speaker there during the Week of Prayer
for Christian Unity. A 2002 edition of Fuller Seminary paper Focus featured an
interview with a Catholic nun about her experience as a student at Fuller. She
said, “I think Fuller is a great place for a Catholic woman to study who wants
to be taken seriously as a woman in ministry”
[www.wayoflife.org/fbns/unbeliefat.htm]. ■
“An article written by Jesuit Father
Thomas P. Rausch, Professor of Catholic Theology at Loyola Marymount
University, Los Angeles titled The
Catholic/Pentecostal 'born again' experiences documents a recent ecumenical
gathering that took place in southern
California, November 8, 2004: ‘On November 8, the Committee brought together
about 40 Pentecostal pastors from the Pasadena area and Catholic priests,
deacons, and pastoral associates from four Pasadena and San Gabriel deaneries
at the San Gabriel Mission for a chance to get acquainted. After an opening
prayer service led by Dr. Anthea Butler from LMU, the two co-chairs --- Dr.
Cecil M. Robeck, Jr., a professor of
Ecumenics at Fuller, and myself --- made initial presentations [Roger Oakland,
Understand the Times News Update, November 23, 2004]. ■
INDIRECT: Fuller was influenced by J.
Edwin Orr, but “It was [Orr's] rule that he would only speak where there was an
ecumenical representation” [The World Christian Movement, Evangelism vs.
Evangelization, By Albert James Dager]. ■ INDIRECT: Fuller was close
to Henrietta Mears, yet “a Catholic priest called on her [Mears] ... They
subsequently had many long, interesting talks together on spiritual matters”
[Ibid]. ■ “These five-Mears, Fuller, Ockenga, Orr and
Gesswein-worked together closely to establish ecumenical campus movements” [Ibid]. ■
INDIRECT:
Fuller’s
Eldon Ladd was influenced by C. H. Dodd who was heavily influenced by ■
POST-1992: “FAW’s “festivals of Hope”
... are staffed by such leaders as ... Mary Ann Finch, worship director for a Franciscan Retreat Center; Father John Powell, Loyola University;
[and] Dr. Bob Munger, Fuller Seminary” [Mr. Norman P. Grubb,
M.J.Stanford]. ■
POST-1992: “In January 2001 an
ecumenical venture named The Foundation for a Conference on Faith and Order in ■
POST-1992: “In January 2003, 50
church leaders from 30 denominations gathered at Fuller Seminary to launch a
new ecumenical alliance called Christian Churches Together in the USA. ‘The new
alliance will be the broadest ecumenical coalition ever formed in the history
of the Jesuits/Rome
==>> Hall, F. ■
Hall’s
famous book on fasting doesn’t OPENLY promote Jesuits/Rome
==>> Jung, C. ■ “Carl Jung, said
that ‘the most significant religious event since the Reformation
was the Papal pronouncement in 1950 of the dogma of the Assumption of
the Blessed Virgin’” [Morrison, op. cit., p561]. (Note how Jung ignores such events as Wesley
and the Great Awakening, and how he appears happy to use the phrase “Blessed
Virgin”.) ■ A long
list of books by Jungian Catholics (including DiOrio and Ranaghan) is provided at:
www.innerexplorations.com/catjc/jcbib.htm ■ As a young man, Jung had an
experience with a Jesuit which had a great influence on him. {Source: NABV?} Jesuits/Rome
==>> Kelsey, M. ■ Kelsey has “freely
confessed to being influenced by … the spiritual exercises of [the Jesuit]
Ignatius Loyola” [Morrison,
op. cit., p432] ■ Kelsey is perfectly happy with the Romish
practice of venerating relics [Morton Kelsey, Healing and Christianity,
(Harper and Row, 1973), pp185-6, as quoted in D.Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit,
pp231-2]. ■
Kelsey
is a Catholic scholar [ Jesuits/Rome
==>> Kenyon, E.W. ■
INDIRECT: Kenyon was influenced by P.P.
Quimby [McConnell, op. cit., p39] but
“Phineas Parkhurst Quimby is generally recognized as the father of New Thought.
He was ... Inspired by the work of Anton Mesmer [a Catholic]”. ■ INDIRECT: Trine influenced Kenyon [McConnell, op. cit., p41]. But Trine said the following: “When we make
our united human calling the paramount fact in our lives, we shall find that
minor differences and narrow prejudices fall away. A Jew will be able to
worship in a Catholic cathedral, a
Catholic in a Jewish synagogue, a Buddhist in a Christian church, a Christian
in a Buddhist temple, … Indeed, worship itself will
give way to the recognising of the Divine in all things…”
[www.oatstreetchapel.com/newsletter/1998-11-Nov.pdf]. ■
INDIRECT: Baker Eddy wrote: “Christian Scientists have no quarrel with Protestants, Catholics, or any other sect” [christiansciencebooks.rolf-witzsche.com/book-784.html]. ■
INDIRECT: R.W.Emerson
influenced Kenyon [McConell, op. cit.,
p26] but “Emerson’s later poetry suggests that a harmonious relationship with
nature and the Over-Soul may be achieved by all people who are willing to hear
the Over-Soul’s message in nature through pure and reliable sources such as the
Aeolian harp. As Emerson ages, he begins to view the harp as more than an
instrument; it becomes a symbol of beauty, wisdom, and divine harmony in his poetry.
... The Aeolian harp, ... [was] Invented as a stringed
wooden box by Jesuit Athanasius
Kircher” [‘The Aeolian Harp: Beauty and Unity in the Poetry and Prose of Ralph
Waldo Emerson’, Cynthia A. Cavanaugh]. ■ INDIRECT: R.W.Emerson was
extremely keen to see “Catholic Emancipation” [RWE, ‘English Traits, XVIII. Result’]. Emerson influenced Kenyon yet Emerson calls
the Roman Pope “the Holy Father, at ■
INDIRECT: R.W.Emerson wrote: “The
Liturgy, admired for its energy and pathos, is an anthology of the piety of
ages and nations, a translation of the prayers and forms of the Catholic church,--these collected, too,
in long periods, from the prayers and meditations of every saint and sacred
writer, all over the world” [RWE, ‘SHAKSPEARE; OR, THE POET’]. ■
INDIRECT: Charles Mallory influenced
Kenyon, yet he educated his son at a Jesuit college (if Stephen Russell
Mallory’s father was the same Charles Mallory whom Kenyon knew!) [www.csawardept.com/history/Cabinet/Mallory]. ■
INDIRECT: Mesmer influenced both RW
Emerson – who influenced Kenyon, yet: “Jesuit
... Professor Hehl ... suggested to Mesmer that the magnetic force quite
possibly was moving the etheric fluid. ... Mesmer was soon
making use of magnets to effect his cures”
[http://psychicinvestigator.com/Occult/Mesmr.htm]. ■
INDIRECT: Kenyon was greatly influenced
by Unitarianism and New England Transcendentalism, yet the “apostle of
Unitarianism,” William Ellery Channing, who was also “a leading figure in the
development of New England Transcendentalism”, “admired the Catholic mysticism
of Archbishop Fénelon”
[www.csustan.edu/english/reuben/pal/chap4/channing_ellery.html,
college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/rcah/html/ah_086600_transcendent.htm]. ■
INDIRECT: Mesmer’s ideas were
“Paracelsus-inspired” and he was “influenced by the occult work of a Jesuit
priest, Maximillian Hehl, one of Maria Theresa’s court astrologers” [Morrison, Serpent,
p249]. Jesuits/Rome
==>> Kraft, C. ■ ‘The North American
Congress’ saw Kraft cooperating with Catholics {} Jesuits/Rome
==>> Kuhlman, K. ■ Kuhlman submitted
herself to ‘Pope’ Paul VI (who is
also quoted favourably by Gumbel). Kuhlman “had an audience with Pope Paul VI on
■ “In her later years, Kuhlman was
very ecumenical, drawing denominationally diverse crowds, then urging
them not to leave their churches but to return to be a healing force.
Kuhlman also purposefully preached a positive message,
refusing to expose doctrinal error ... She believed that preaching a positive
gospel would accomplish more. Her biographer says Kuhlman is credited with
helping to bridge gaps
between Protestants and Catholics” [Warner, op. cit., p163]. ■ “Kuhlman was a main speaker at the ecumenical
‘World Congress on the Holy Spirit’ in ■ “Kathryn Kuhlman ... was heavily
influenced ... by the Roman Catholic
church” [Tom and Sheila Smith, ‘Background to the
“Holy Laughter” Movement: A Historical and Doctrinal Study’,
www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4948/vine3is5.html]. ■ INDIRECT: Kuhlman allowed one of her
books (one mainly comprising testimonies of healing) to legitimize the ministry
of Roman Catholic priests [K.Kuhlman, God Can Do It Again, (Pillar
Books, August 1975), pp218-9]. ■ Kuhlman’s book God Can Do It Again’ has
a constant drip of little statements that help to make Roman Catholicism look okay
[See pages 21, 24, 111, 118, 138, 141, 184, 191 and the entire 15-page section
called ‘From Russia To Love’ in the Pillar Books edition, 1975]. Although
most of these comments are very modest on their own, their COMBINED effect is
significant. Each one is positive. Compare this with the mockery of
Baptists on page 24, where Kuhlman said “If God can heal a Baptist, He can heal
anybody”. ■ “The Jesuits have been in the chair of organizations
like Catholic Youth Action, [and] Legion of Mary (by the help of Kathryn
Kuhlman)...” [www.endtime.net/engelsk/power2.htm]. ■ Tape 503 in
Kuhlman's library of sermons at her church is by “Father Edward O'Conner -Notre
Dame” {} Jesuits/Rome
==>> MacNutt, F. ■ MacNutt is an ‘ex’
Roman Catholic priest. ■ A book by the (Jesuit) Linn brothers is
recommended in MacNutt’s book The Prayer That Heals (Hodder Christian
Books, 2001), p70. Jesuits/Rome ==>> Pytches, D. ■ Pytches cites “Fr. George Malmey”, without
any disclaimer, as having produced material worth knowing about [D. Pytches, Come,
Holy Spirit, pp148-9]. ■ Pytches seems happy
to call the Catholic mystics Teresa of Avila and John of the Cross “saints” [D.
Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, p149].
On the next page Pytches appears to be quite happy with the teaching on
trances given by “St. Teresa of ■ Pytches lists two
Catholic priests as members of the true church [D. Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit,
p224]. ■ Pytches is happy
with the Romish practice of venerating relics (just as long as they aren’t
actually worshipped - even though veneration is a form of worship) - and
Pytches also strongly implies he is entirely happy with belief in the healing
power of relics [D. Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, pp231-2]. ■ Pytches lists a
whole raft of Catholics (e.g. Richard of Chichester, Dominic, Francis of Assisi
and ‘Pope’ Gregory 1) as ‘Church Fathers’ [D.Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit,
p163]. ■ Pytches appears to
legitimize the Romanizing Oxford Movement, calling it a “renewal movement” [D. Pytches, Come,
Holy Spirit, p264]. ■ INDIRECT: Pytches seems happy to
trust David du Plessis, an observer at
Jesuits/Rome ==>> Sandford, J./P. ■
Sandford “claims that the bones coming together [in Ezek. 37] is the current
ecumenical movement of the church. [He writes:] ‘That’s where we have been, as
we discovered Methodists, Lutherans, Baptists, Roman Catholics and so many
other Christians of every denomination all being filled with the Spirit,
rattling our theologies together, joining ourselves to one another with a lot
of noise!’” [cultlink]. ■
An article by Mark Sandford on the website of J and P
Sandford describes a Promise Keeper's Rally and states happily that “A Catholic
speaker led us to forgive denominations for which we held ill feelings. And we
repented for criticizing, rather than praying for, our spiritual and political
leaders. Perhaps more than anything, that last item broke Satan’s power.” ■ Another article by Mark
Sandford on the website of J and P Sandford says of revival “we see smaller
tidal waves, each washing a little closer to the high water mark of revival.
First wave: 1960, movement caught on in the Catholic Church. Twenty-eight years
would pass before God would visit His blessing upon
Jesuits/Rome
==>> ■
■
■ “Most people think that one cannot be both a
metaphysician and a sacramentalist. But I have found that one can, …
For instance I once talked to a discouraged young man in an army hospital. His
back was broken and apparently his spirit was broken too, …
I tried to tell him of the Life that could mend his broken back. ‘You know,
doctors tell you that nature makes you well,’ I said. ‘Well, what is nature?
It’s God’s life in you, isn’t it?’. … And I tried to explain to him how to renew
a sort of spiritual blood transfusion in his body. ‘But I think that’s contrary
to my religion,’ he objected. ‘I’m a Roman Catholic.’ ‘Then it’s not contrary to your religion at all!’ I replied. ‘It’s just exactly what your church teaches you!
Don’t they teach you that Our Lord sends His Real Life into the elements of the
Blessed Sacrament?’ ‘Yes,’ he murmured, … ‘Well, if
that Real Presence is His Body and Blood, doesn’t it include His bones? And
can’t you receive it in your backbone?’ … ‘Then I’ll pray for you to receive It in just that way. And I’ll ask my friends the Sisters to
pray for you every morning at the ■
■ INDIRECT: “The most recent development
of these Conferences on the Jesuits/Rome
==>> Scanlan, M. ■ Scanlan is a Catholic priest. Jesuits/Rome
==>> Schuller, R. ■ “When Larry King
asked him [Schuller] if [the ecumenical meeting in] Bethlehem gave
him encouragement, he responded: ‘Oh, absolutely … [T]his is marvelous
… Here was the Roman Catholic patriarch … and the Protestant minister of
the town - this is a remarkable thing” [Burns, op. cit., p119]. ■ “When the Pope
went to Los Angeles, California in 1987, Schuller said: ‘It’s time for
Protestants to go to the shepherd [i.e.
the Roman Pope] and say
“What do we have to do to come home?”’ Later Schuller ‘made a special trip to
Rome to ask the Pope’s blessing on the building plans for his Crystal Cathedral’”
[Burns, op. cit., p119]. ■ “‘In 1972 Schuller “invited Catholic Bishop Fulton
J. Sheen to his pulpit and joined with Catholic bishops at their Mass
at the Annual Mary’s Hour at the Los Angeles Sports Arena.”’” [Burns, op. cit., p116]. ■ “Dr. Schuller declared where he stood on
this issue [i.e. the Papacy] when he described his feelings as he watched Pope
John Paul (II) perform the sacrifice of the mass during his visit to Los
Angeles in September 1987 in these words – ‘I cried through most of the mass,
because there was NOTHING that he said in words or in theological content that
didn’t harmonise with my own belief system’” [Cecil Andrews, Robert
Schuller: Satellite Saint or High-Flying Heretic?, (Take Heed, no date),
p15]. ■ POST-1992: “In 1998 Schuller once again met with the Pope
‘hand-to-hand, heart-to-heart at the ■ See also
www.wayoflife.org/fbns/schullerand.htm! Jesuits/Rome
==>> Semple McPherson, A. ■ McPherson said this in 1939:
“Did you happen to be awake last night? I just couldn’t sleep – I had to listen to, at least, an hour or
so of that broadcast from Rome. I thought it was so interesting, when the new Pope was being put in office. That was
this morning. It was certainly impressive. I have never been brought up a
Catholic – I mean, a Roman Catholic
– we’re all Catholics, aren’t we? We’re Protestant Catholics, whether we’re
from Methodist or Baptist or what. But I couldn’t help being impressed with
that ceremony. Especially the part where they set him aside
and put oil on his hands and anointed him. They gave him the communion. I said, “Well, my, from now
on when I ordain my young people, I’d love to see their elders anoint their
hands with oil, that they may go out and lay hands on others. I believe that many
of the early Catholic traditions are handed down from apostolic days,
don’t you, before the days of Martin Luther. Take the Lord’s Supper that they
may go – give it to others. We do not agree that there’s just one
mediator between God and man, and that’s the Pope. We don’t agree with that at
all. We believe that Jesus Christ is the Mediator of all. But we cannot help but admire,
the respect that is paid to the Lord Jesus. Certainly in this day we’re out
to preach Christ. But to hear that coming over, and I thought, “My…….!” They
described how the people cheered, and they said the nuns even took their
handkerchiefs and waved and cheered and clapped as the cardinals went by,
leading the Pope. I thought, “My, won’t it be wonderful when our High Priest,
Jesus Christ, comes back again.” Oh, if we do our task! I’ll tell you, even you stiff-folks might bend and wave our
handkerchiefs that day, when the Lord comes back. Amen?! Glory be to God! I was so interested (in this radio program). I
awakened the young lady at our house and I said, “Listen to this!” When Joanne
came, it came to the part about the nuns even waving their hands and the people
all cheering, I told of an experience of mine in ■ Milton
Berle, speaking of the bedroom of an
apartment owned and used by ASM, wrote “It was candles
all right. Two of them on the night table by the bed, which
she had already turned down. They were burning in front of a silver
crucifix that stood before a triptych panel of the scene on ■ “[ASM was] very ecumenical ... The Dictionary of
Pentecostal & Charismatic Movements states that, ‘…Her vision was
interdenominational from the start, and the cornerstone of Angelus Temple was
inscribed to read that the Temple was dedicated to “the cause of
interdenominational and world-wide evangelism”’”
[www.seekgod.ca/britishisrael.htm]. Jesuits/Rome
==>> Suenens, L. ■ Suenens was a
Catholic Cardinal. Jesuits/Rome ==>> Teilhard
deChardin, P. ■ Teilhard was a Jesuit priest. Jesuits/Rome
==>> Wagner, C. P. ■ ‘The North American Congress’
saw Wagner cooperating with Catholics. {} ■ “Wagner has stated re the RCC:
‘Traditionally, the message of the Gospel in Latin America has appealed to the
working class. But changes have begun to take place, and many middle and
upper-class people are now opening their hearts to Jesus Christ. Some of this
is happening through the Catholic charismatic movement.’” (C. Peter
Wagner, ‘Look at What God's Doing!,’ an excerpt from On the Crest of the
Wave, Ventura, CA: Regal Books, 1983)” [www.loriswebs.com/endtimeprophets/eculead.html] ■ “C. Peter Wagner supports the assimilation
of the RCC into evangelistic [sic] groups” [Ibid] Jesuits/Rome ==>> Wierwille,
V. ■ Victor
Paul Wierwille admitted “I studied everything I could find in the Roman
Catholic church” (Twenty-fifth Anniversary Souvenir
Booklet, p10) [Rob Pardon, The Way International – HISTORY,
neirr.org/thewayhisttheo.htm]. Why would
he have done this unless he was either going to expose it – which he wasn’t –
or unless he agreed with his initial findings into Romanism (and thus continued
them). Unless
he was planning to reveal Rome for what she really is, he should have stopped
studying Rome as soon as he realized it was idolatrous – i.e. long before he
studied “EVERYTHING” he could find on her – for we are told to FLEE from
idolatry! ■ Wierwille was ordained in the very
ecumenical ‘United Church of Christ’ whose website claims that: “Early in the
20th century, the Holy Spirit began to inspire a worldwide
movement toward Christian unity. ... The ecumenical movement calls the churches
to restore their oneness in Christ ...
Two world wars and religious sectarianism had made clear a need for the
church to take seriously its responsibility as agents of God’s healing,
and in repentance, to acknowledge in its divisions a mutual need for Christ’s
redemption. ... The Second Vatican
Council at Rome, called by Pope John
XXIII, met between 1962 and 1965 with a primary purpose of ‘peace and unity.’” ■
INDIRECT: “The most recent
development of these Conferences on the Emerging Church is FAW’s “festivals of
Hope.” These conclaves … are staffed by such leaders as the above and Mary Ann
Finch, worship director for a Franciscan Retreat Center; Father John Powell,
Loyola University; … Other names linked with FAW past and present [include] Rosalind
Rinker, [who influenced Wierwille].” Jesuits/Rome ==>> Wimber, J.
(/Vineyard) ■
“Wimber’s wife Carol was raised in the Roman Catholic Church. Wimber stated
that after having separated for awhile over marriage difficulties, he and Carol
were remarried in the Catholic Church. Neither of the Wimbers ever
renounced their Roman Catholic experiences” [Al Dager, Media Spotlight Special
Report: John Wimber and the Vineyard]. ■ “Major speakers included [Catholic]
Father Forrest, … and John Wimber [at Leaders Congress, New
Orleans, October 1986]” [Gretchen Keiser, ‘Leaders’ Congress Prepares for '87 Rally In
Superdome’, Georgia Bulletin, November 20, 1986, – see
www.archatl.com/gabulletin/1986/861120b.html and www.cin.org/archives/cinchar/199808/0111.html]. ■ “…In 10/91, Hayford visited ■ Wimber has called for
“Protestants [to] submit to the authority of the Pope” [Goodwin, op.
cit., p3]. ■ “Wimber
[teaches] ‘In the name of Jesus, you can forgive the sins of
others’ … - certainly another indication of Wimber’s attachment to Roman
Catholicism” [Goodwin, op. cit., p9]. ■ “Wimber states, ‘In the Catholic
Church for over a 1,200 year period, people were healed as a result of touching
relics of the saints. We Protestants have difficulty with that, … but we healers shouldn’t, because there’s nothing
theologically out of line with that” [Goodwin, op. cit., p17]. ■ “Wimber … encourages the
reunification of Protestants with the church of Rome. During a Vineyard pastors’ conference, he
went so far as to ‘apologize to the Catholic church on behalf of all
Protestants’ … He stated that ‘the Pope, who by the way is very
responsive to the charismatic movement, and is himself a born again
evangelical, is preaching the gospel as clear as anyone in the world
today’” [Goodwin, op. cit., p18 - emphasis in original]. ■ ‘The North American
Congress’ saw Wimber cooperating with Catholics. {} ■ “Wimber has consistently
maintained an ecumenical spirit toward Roman Catholicism. He has appeared on
the same platform with Roman Catholic clergy in ecumenical gatherings, and what
he calls ‘internationally recognized Catholic leaders’ were present at the ■ The Linn brothers worked with
Wimber - and were both Jesuits [Dager, Vengeance is Ours, p155]. ■ The following was reported of Vineyard’s John
White, speaking at a Vineyard conference in 1990: “part of his talk was
controlled, not by the teaching of Scripture, but by illustrations from … Jean
la France (a French Jesuit) [among
one or two others]” [Mark Thompson, John Wimber - Friend or Foe?, (St. Matthias
Press, nd), p.19] ■ POST-1992: “[At] the
Charismatic Conference in ■ “Wimber gives much credence to Roman Catholic
sources for establishing the validity of miracles … includ[ing] miracles
allegedly performed by Roman Catholic ‘saints’ which validate their
canonisation by the Vatican. … Wimber implies that the Roman
Catholic approach to miracles is more trustworthy than that of Protestants”
[Dager, The Vineyard, p13]. ■ “Wimber cites [positively]… Roman Catholic sources … [including] Gregory I (the Great) … St. Francis of Assisi …
Vincent Ferrer (a Dominican preacher) … Ignatius of Loyola … Teresa of Avila”
[Dager, The Vineyard, p13]. ■ Wimber refers positively to
the ‘miracles’ of ■ “Wimber has written for the Catholic
charismatic publication, New Covenant, (June, 1988) … [an] article
[titled] ‘Why I love Mary’” [Dager, The Vineyard, p13]. ■ “Wimber has publicly
apologised to the [Catholic] Archbishop of Los Angeles on behalf of all
Protestants” [Dager, The Vineyard, p13]. A former associate
says, ‘[Wimber,] During a Vineyard pastors conference, went so far as to
“apologize” to the Catholic church on behalf of all Protestants’” [John F.
MacArthur Jr., Charismatic Chaos, (Zondervan, 1992), p180]. ■ “‘I studied leaders like … Father
Ralph Diorio, Father John Bertolucci, … Ralph C. Martin, Dennis and Matthew
Linn, Francis MacNutt, Father Michael Scanlan, Sister Briege McKenna, Father
Edward McDonough, … [All are Catholic]’” [Wimber, Power Evangelism,
(London, Hodder and Stoughton, 1995), p124, as quoted in Dager, The
Vineyard, p14]. ■ “In his seminar on church
planting, Wimber stated, ‘The pope … is himself a born
again evangelical. If you’ve read any of his texts concerning salvation, you’d
know he is preaching the gospel as clear as anybody is preaching it in the
world today’” [MacArthur, op. cit., p180]. ■ “An Appendix in Wimber’s Power
Evangelism seeks to establish that signs and wonders have appeared
throughout church history. Wimber cites an eclectic catalog of individuals and
movements … as evidence. Included in these are Hilarion (a fourth-century
hermit), Augustine, Pope Gregory I
(the Great), Francis of ■ Wimber was a speaker at the
conference “ ■ “In October 1991, the John Wimber conference in
Sydney, Australia, featured Catholic priests Tom Forrest and Raniero
Cantalamessa, as well as Catholic layman Kevin Ranaghan” { } ■ In his book, Power healing,
Wimber writes that he studied “the theologies and practices of leaders from different schools of
divine healing” applying what he “learnt from these models to our situation in
the Vineyard Christian Fellowship”. In
the accompanying footnote he writes: “Almost every model I studied offered some
insight into divine healing,…” Amongst the leaders of these “schools” and
“models” he lists are … Dennis and Matthew Linn Wimber, Power Healing,
pp182, 292-293]. ■ In his book Power Healing, p39, Wimber refers to Augustine and Francis of
Assisi as “great reformers in church history. ■ Ralph C. Martin is referred to on p62 of Wimber’s book Power Healing. ■ INDIRECT: Hinn
has influenced Wimber, yet Hinn has had enormous input from ■ INDIRECT:
Hinn refers to Mother Theresa with approval [The Many Faces of Benny Hinn, video: The Door]. Jung, Carl
[Click here for details of this name] Jung ==>> Alpha ■ Gumbel quotes Jung approvingly in the Alpha talks {} ■ HTB stocks a book of quotes called A Treasury of Christian
Wisdom [our emphasis] which includes quotes from Jung. ■ INDIRECT: Jung greatly influenced Freud and Nicky
Gumbel quotes Freud positively more than once in the Alpha materials {} ■ INDIRECT: Joyce Huggett was influenced by Jung and
has influenced Alpha. Huggett’s book Listening to God is the only item of recommended
reading in Session 6 of the Alpha talks. ■ INDIRECT: Paul Tillich, whom Gumbel quotes
approvingly, drew from Jung. He quotes
Jung as emphasizing, “The medical psychotherapist today must make clear to his
more educated patients the foundations of religious experience, and set them on
the road to where such experience becomes possible.” [Awakening the Healer Within – Empowering Spiritual Healing, Elizabeth K.
Stratton, MS, www.ijhc.org/FreeJournal/0601articles/Stratton-I-1.asp]. ■ INDIRECT: David
Watson has influenced HTB, yet he quotes Jung approvingly [Watson, Live a
New Life, (IVP, 1996), p10]. ■ INDIRECT, POSSIBLY POST-1992: Gumbel approvingly quotes “psychiatrist Paul Tournier”
[Gumbel, Heart of Revival, (Kingsway, 1998), p111] yet Jung is legitimised in
Tournier’s book ‘The Adventure of Living’ [see its index]. Jung ==>>
Assagioli, R. ■ “One of the earliest champions of this type of
visualisation in Western psychology was Roberto Assagioli, a pupil of Carl
Jung” [Morrison, op. cit., p427]. ■ Both Jung and Assagioli worked on the ERANOS conferences. Jung ==>> Foster, R. /Renovaré ■ “[I]n 1991 [Foster] held
… [his] second ‘National Conference on Personal Spiritual Renewal of
Christian Leaders’: … the directors [plural] praised
occultist/psychiatrist Carl Jung as a great psychiatrist …”
[www.seekgod.ca/renovare.htm] {May be from Morrison, Trojan Horse,
p120} ■ “Richard Foster, having freely confessed to being
influenced by … the psychology of the self-styled Gnostic Carl Jung…”
[Morrison, op. cit., p432] ■ “Richard Foster … integrates psychotherapy
into Renovaré’s methodologies. … Often mentioned is Carl Jung”
[Dager, MS Special Report: Renovaré, p11]. ■ In his
book Celebration of Discipline: The Path to Spiritual Growth (New York:
Harper and Row, 1978), p22, Foster favourably quotes Carl Jung [Dager, MS
Special Report: Renovaré, p2]. ■ Foster writes the following: “In his
autobiography C. G. JUNG describes how difficult it was for him to
humble himself and once again play imagination games of a child, and the value
of that experience” [Wendy Howard, Mini-Despatch Sept 1, 1999, ‘A Critique
on the Ministry of Richard Foster’, as quoted by James Sundquist, email on
file, Sept. 4, 2003]. ■ Karen Mains is on Renovaré’s Board of
Reference [Lynda Graybeal, Administrative Associate of Richard J. Foster, email on file, ■ The harshest ‘criticism’ of Jung we know of
from Renovaré reads as follows: “Even though Jung may not have been an orthodox
Christian, he recognized that the Devil can lead us astray through busyness and
that all adults need to regain the imaginations they lost as their parents
‘civilized’ them” [Lynda Graybeal, Administrative Associate of Richard J.
Foster and official co-witness to the signing of Renovaré’s incorporation
papers, email on file, 18th Sept.
2003]. ■ “[Renovaré’s] Vaswig lauds
psychologist Carl Jung whom he calls a ‘great psychiatrist’.” [Dager, MS Special Report: Renovaré,
p9].
Jung ==>> Fox, G./Quakers ■ The Friends website http://fcrp.quaker.org/
contains much pro-Jung material. See for
instance the ‘Views and Reviews’ in its magazine Inward Light, Vol
XLVII, Nos. 101 and 102, Spring 1986 (as at
http://fcrp.quaker.org/InwardLight101/101Reviews.html). The site even includes a link to the “Carl
Gustav Jung Web Ring” on its homepage!
See also: http://fcrp.quaker.org.jung.html. Jung ==>>
Kelsey, M. ■ “Morton Kelsey [has] drawn heavily from Jung”
[Goodwin,
op. cit., p30] ■ “Morton Kelsey … [is] an ardent
advocate of Jungian psychology and shamanism” [Morrison, op. cit.,
p128] ■ “Morton Kelsey further reveals a
Neo-Gnostic connection when he states that ‘it was C.G. Jung who showed
me that such practices can work today, and that images … open one … beyond to
the world of psychoid realities where one is able to come into contact with the
realm of God Himself’” [Morrison,
op. cit., p433] ■ Kelsey quotes Jung very positively in his
book Tongue Speaking (Hodder and Stoughton, 1968, p199) [as quoted in
David Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, p67]. ■ “Morton Kelsey … has subtly
woven the Jungian gospel through virtually every one of his books, specially those aimed for the Charismatic renewal
constituency” [www3.bc.sympatico.ca/st_simons/arm03.htm]. ■ “‘The Jungian School’ … takes
dreams very seriously and finds in the intricate psychological writings of Carl
Jung a theoretical basis (Kelsey, 1964, 1968)” [Morrison]. ■ Kelsey’s 1972 book Encounter With God is Jungian. ■ “Morton Kelsey … has devoted an
entire book to defending the ideas of Carl Jung” [J. Sundquist]. ■ “Morton Kelsey,
[was] himself mentored by Carl Jung” [James Sundquist,
www.abrahamic-faith.com/James/John%20Stoll%20vs.%20James%20Sundquist%20VI.html]. Jung ==>> Kuhlman,
K. ■ INDIRECT: Kuhlman allowed one of her
books (a book mainly comprising testimonies of healing) to quote Jung very
positively (and at some length) [K. Kuhlman, God Can Do It Again, p100]. Jung ==>>
Pytches, D.
■ Pytches offers a favourable quote about Jung
[D. Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, p67]. ■ INDIRECT: Pytches recommends a book
by the Jung devotee Joyce Huggett [Pytches, op.
cit., p287]. Jung ==>> Sandford, J./P. ■ “I found that most of their [the
Sandford’s] philosophies followed the teachings of Carl Jung” [Greg
DesVoignes, www.crmspokane.org/transformations1.htm]. Jung ==>> ■ “Agnes Sanford (1897-1982) [was] Heavily
influenced by the teachings of Carl Jung” [Morrison, op. cit.,
p440]. ■ “Agnes Sanford … [has] drawn heavily from Jung” [Goodwin, op.
cit., p30]. ■ “Carl Gustav Jung received his revelations from a spirit guide. His
methods were adopted by Agnes Sanford and are spread to the Church by her
teachings and those of her disciples” [Dager, The Vineyard, p11]. ■ ■ INDIRECT: “in the late 1980s John Sanford [son of
Agnes Sanford] rebuked Dave Hunt for criticizing Jung, stating he had
accomplished much for society” [Greg DesVoignes,
www.crmspokane.org/transformation1.htm].
Jung
==>> Wimber, J. (/Vineyard) ■ INDIRECT: “The Vineyard’s inner healing methods are especially
rooted in psychic healing practices … whose roots are in Jungian psychology”
[Dager, The Vineyard, p11]. Kelsey, Morton
[Click here for details of this name]
Kelsey ==>> Foster, R. /Renovaré ■ “Morton … is one of the major influences
on the professing evangelical Christian, Richard Foster” [Morrison, op.
cit., p434]; “Morton Kelsey, … has greatly influenced Richard Foster”
[Morrison, op. cit., p432]. ■ Foster sanctions a
book by Kelsey [Prayer, p293].
Kelsey ==>> MacNutt,
F. ■
MacNutt
cites Kelsey positively and promotes Kelsey’s books in a number of places in
his book Healing - e.g. on page 332 of the 2001 Hodder and
Kelsey ==>> Pytches, D. ■ Pytches quotes
Kelsey positively [D. Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, pp53,232]
and recommends three Kelsey books [Ibid, pp72, 128, 195].
Kelsey ==>> ■ See Liz emails. {LIZ} ■
Sanford’s son, Jack, “studied at the C.J.[sic] Jung Institute in Zurich
with Morton Kelsey” [Howard: A Critique On The Ministry Of Richard Foster]. “It seems that Agnes Sanford was highly influenced
by her son, … John A. Sanford and her pastor, … Morton
T. Kelsey” [Don Matzat]. ■ “John Loren Sandford ... dedicated his books to her [Agnes
Sanford] as his beloved mentor. Morton Kelsey learned healing of memories from
her as well” { } ■
“Agnes
Sanford whose mentor [was] Morton Kelsey” [Jackie Alnor, ‘Multnomah Press:
Covering up for False Teacher Brennan Manning’].
Kelsey ==>> Wimber, J. (/Vineyard) ■ Wimber quotes Kelsey
in his book Power Evangelism [See Dager, The Vineyard, p12]. ■ “Morton Kelsey’s
name pops up frequently in Wimber’s teachings, and Wimber has even dedicated a
seminar series to him. … [Kelsey] equates the ministry of Jesus with that of a shaman – a
witch doctor [in his books Healing and Christianity, (New York: Harper
and Row, 1973), p51, and Dreams, A Way to Listen to God, (New York:
Paulist Press, 1978), p23]” [Dager, The Vineyard, p12]. ■ “Both
Agnes Sanford and Morton Kelsey have drawn heavily from Jung, and John Wimber in turn draws from all
three of these sources” [Goodwin, op. cit., p30]. ■ “Wimber
dedicates his Healing - a Biblical and Historical Perspective Seminar Series
to Kelsey and MacNutt, stating “I would like to express my appreciation to Morton
Kelsey and Francis MacNutt for their valuable insights and information.
They have made a significant contribution in the area of healing” [Goodwin, op.
cit., p32]. ■
“Wagner’s work led him [Wimber] into a significant exploration of
spiritual gifts. This also included study of work by the …
Episcopalian charismatic Morton Kelsey” [Hilborn, op. cit., p6]. ■ “[B]ooks that influenced [Wimber
include] … Healing and Christianity by Morton Kelsey” [Randles,
Weighed and Found Wanting, p75]. ■ Kelsey fundamentally
influenced Wimber [Fearon, op. cit., p66]. ■ A historian within the Vineyard leadership admits that
Wimber was “influenced … by the writings of men like … Morton Kelsey” [ ■ In his book A Dream Come True, Vineyard’s James Ryle endorses Kelsey, and calls those who disagree
with Kelsey’s dangerous views about dreams as “arrogant and ignorant” [Counterfeit Revival, p91]. Kenyon, E.W.
[Click here for details of this name] Kenyon
==>> Branham, W. /LR ■ According to McConnell, Kenyon’s writings
were “widely read by … William Branham” [op. cit., p23]. ■ Ern Baxter called Kenyon “‘widely influential’”
on the “post-World War II Healing Revival” (of which Branham formed a central
part) [Ibid, pp28,76]. ■ According to McConnell and Hanegraaff:
Branham was heavily influenced by Kenyon [McConnell, op. cit., pp3-14; See
also Hanegraaff, op. cit., pp30,331]. ■ “Kenneth E. Hagin [was] … a disciple of E.
W. Kenyon” [Dager, The Vineyard,
p13]. Kenyon
==>> Copeland, K. /Hagin, K. ■ According to McConnell, Kenyon’s writings
were “widely read by … Kenneth Hagin … Kenyon’s influence … was
massive” [op. cit., p23]. ■ Ern Baxter called Kenyon “‘widely
influential’” on the “post-World War II Healing Revival” (of which Hagin formed
a central part) [Ibid, pp28,76]. ■ Hagin plagiarized Kenyon “repeatedly and
extensively” [Reachout Trust, The ‘Faith’ Movement
may be Prospering but is it Healthy? (1995), pp4-5; See also McConnell, op.
cit., pp3-14; Hank Hanegraaff, Christianity in Crisis (Nelson Word
Ltd., UK ed., 1995), pp30,331]. ■ Kenyon’s book The Wonderful Name of Jesus
is quoted incessantly in Hagin’s book The Name of Jesus, (Faith Library
Publications, 1983). Hagin says of
Kenyon’s book “I encourage you to get a copy. It is a marvelous book. It is
revelation knowledge. It is the Word of God” [Ibid, p9], and “I
quoted freely from E. W. Kenyon’s book … I acknowledge here my deep
appreciation for the revelation knowledge God gave him … [and] for his
willingness and obedience to teach and live it” [Ibid, p11]. ■ INDIRECT: “[B]oth Kenneth Copeland
and Kenneth Hagin point to T. L. Osborn and
William Branham as true men of God who greatly influenced their lives and
ministries. Of course, Osborn
himself has consistently followed E. W. Kenyon” [Hank Hanegraaff, CRI
STATEMENT DC755-1, ‘WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE FAITH MOVEMENT (Part One)’];
“Osborn’s indebtedness to both Kenyon and faith healer F. F. Bosworth (another
“Kenyonite”) is mentioned in T. L. Osborn, Healing the Sick, 23d ed.
(Tulsa, OK: Osborn Foundation, 1959), 6, 203, 205. Cf. Richard M. Riss,
“Kenyon, Essek William,” Dictionary of Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements,
ed. Stanley Burges, Gary B. McGee, and Patrick H. Alexander (Grand Rapids:
Regency/Zondervan, 1988), 517; and Don Gossett and E. W. Kenyon, The Power
of the Positive Confession of God's Word (Blaine, WA: Don & Joyce
Gossett, 1979), 3” [{}].
Kenyon ==>> ■
“Ern
Baxter [of the FL5] spent a considerable amount of time with Kenyon in the
latter years of his life” [McConnell, op.
cit., p25]. ■
An article by Kenyon, titled ‘Fellowship with the
Father’ appears in the November 1975 issue of New Wine magazine. Kenyon
==>> Semple McPherson, A. ■ “Aimee Semple McPherson invited him [Kenyon]
to speak at her ■ “Kenyon … frequented the
great healing campaigns of such Pentecostal leaders as F.F.Bosworth and Aimee
Semple McPherson” [McConnell, op. cit., p23]. ■ “Both Geir Lie and Joe McIntyre
have traced Kenyon’s main circle of friends among such well known
Pentecostalists as William Durham [who created the North Avenue Mission and ‘anointed’
McPherson in 1909], Aimee Semple McPherson, John G. Lake, F.F. Bosworth, and
George B. Studd” [Word Of Faith Movement: Is it Metaphysical?, By Troy J.
Edwards, www. Kenyon
==>> Wierwille, V. ■ Wierwille plagiarized Kenyon [www.seekgod.ca/shepherding.htm]. ■ Wierwille
“plagiarized large sections of Kenyon's books” [Dr. John Juedes,
1998, www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/vp_DEATH.htm]. ■ “Wierville developed many of his
theological ideas by plagiarizing from such writers as E. W. Bullinger, George
Lamsa, Kenyon and several others”
[www.seekgod.ca/quakers.htm]. ■ INDIRECT: “Wierwille depended … [on
people like] Albert Cliffe, Rufus Mosely, JE Stiles, ■ Wierwille “plagiarized portions of The
Father and His Family by E.W. Kenyon” [The Way Tree is Splintering,
by John P. Juedes].
Kenyon ==>> Wimber, J.
(/Vineyard) ■ WEAK, NOT ON CHART: Scott Shaw recalls Kenyon being
positively cited by a Vineyard leader at a meeting. No other details are available at the moment. Kraft, Charles [Click here for details of this name - TO
BE DONE] Kraft ==>> Alpha ■ POSSIBLY
POST-1992: HTB stocks the
two Kraft books Deep Wounds, Deep Healing and I Give You Authority. Kraft ==>> FullerTS ■ “Charles Kraft, [is] Professor of Anthopology and Intercultural
Communications at Fuller” [Bill
Randles, Weighed and Found Wanting: The Toronto
Experience Examined in the Light of the Bible, (SMP, 1995), pp79-80].
Kraft
==>> Pytches, D. ■ AROUND 1992:
Kraft visited Pytches’ church and met Pytches’ wife [Kraft, email on file]. Kraft ==>> Wimber, J.
(/Vineyard) ■ “The thing I like most about [Kraft’s book] Defeating Dark
Angels is that it’s based on practical experience and know-how, and will
help anyone interested in being effective in this area of ministry” – John
Wimber, Author, Power Healing. [Endorsement on back
cover of Kraft’s book]. ■ “At Fuller I had the honour of meeting professors like …
Charles Kraft” [Wimber,
Power Evangelism, Revised and Expanded with Study Questions (San
Francisco: Harper Collins, 1992) pp84-85, as quoted in Dager, The Vineyard,
p1]. ■ Wimber cites Kraft approvingly and at some
length [Power Evangelism, p179]. Kuhlman, Kathryn [Click here for details of this name - TO
BE DONE] Kuhlman ==>> Alpha ■ POSSIBLY
POST-1992: HTB stocks at
least three books by Kuhlman (i.e. God Can do it Again, I Believe in
Miracles, and The Greatest Power in the World). ■ INDIRECT,
POST-1992: HTB stocks a book by Jamie Buckingham, who wrote the Foreword
for Kuhlman’s book God Can do it Again. ■ INDIRECT:
Billy Graham, who has influenced HTB, endorses Kuhlman [Billy Graham, The Holy Spirit, (William Collins and
Sons, 1978, p158]. ■
INDIRECT: David Wilkerson has influenced Alpha, yet a Plaque for
the Teen Challenge Award was “presented to Kuhlman on October 4, 1964, by the
Teen Challengers, of which David Wilkerson was director” {} ■
INDIRECT: Dennis Bennett has influenced Alpha, yet two videos
exist of Bennett on Kuhlman's TV show: “V182 173 12/13/69 Gene Martin (African
Story)/Father D. Bennett. (Dino) ‘B’; V183 174 12/13/69 Rev. Harold
Bredesen/Father Dennis Bennett; part II. (Dino) ‘B’”. Also "V350 172 12/13/69 Rev. Harold
Bredesen/Father Dennis Bennett; part ■
INDIRECT: WIlkerson: “(3) Tapes T1801 through T1868 consist of
sermons by other individuals such as Dr. Jarman, Dr. Hoyt, David Wilkerson, and
Benny Hinn.” Wilkerson gave a number of
talks at KK’s church:”
T1856 n.d. Sermon By Dave Wilkerson 599, “Sub-Cultures”. 2. T1857 n.d. Sermon By Dave Wilkerson 600, “Sub-Cultures”. 3 T1858 1964 Sermon By
Dave Wilkerson 629, “Service”. 2 T1859 n.d. Sermon By
Dave Wilkerson 699, “Parents--Keeping Your Child Out Of Trouble.” T1860 1964
Sermon By Dave Wilkerson 707, “Your Responsibility,
Teenager” T1861 n.d. Sermon By Dave Wilkerson 708, “The Home”. 1. V152 23
8/24/66 Panel discussion of scientists with Rev. Wilkerson and Kathryn Kuhlman”
{} Kuhlman ==>> Bertolucci, J. ■ “Volume 2 of the ‘I Believe in Miracles’
telecasts features Kathryn Kuhlman interviewing guests during the charismatic
renewal of the 1970s ... A Roman Catholic priest, Father John Bertolucci, and Kathryn Kuhlman discuss the charismatic
renewal. He shares how he profoundly experienced the Holy Spirit in 1969, and the change it made in his ministry” [Bridge Logos
Retail, easycarts.net/ecarts/Bridge-LogosRetail/Kathryn_Kuhlman_Videos.html]. Kuhlman ==>> Cain, P. /KCP ■
A leader at KCF has told us “We [at KCF]
have *all* acknowledged the grace of God upon [Kuhlman] and know that the power
and grace of God worked through [her]. We made good friends with Jamie
Buckingham who authored Katheryn’s [sic] authorized biography.” When this KCF leader was asked if it would be fair enough to
say that “Kathryn’s ministry was an inspiration to some of Metro’s early
leaders” he agreed. ■
“It was only after Chuck Smith and a group of kids visited her that Lonnie
started to move in healing gifts” [David Sloane, email on file]. ■
Lonnie and Kuhlman were actually quite close friends [telephone conversation
with Lonnie’s brother, Stan Frisbee]. ■ POSSIBLY POST-1992: According to Bickle, one
of the two “most notable” women to have “played a significant role in the
DEVELOPMENT of Protestantism is Kathryn Kuhlman [Growing in the Prophetic, p209]. Kuhlman ==>> ■ Basham promotes a Kuhlman book on p160 of
his book Face Up With A
Miracle. {NB for us: add this link
to chart itself} Kuhlman ==>> Frisbee, L. ■ “In a series of telecasts made in late summer 1971, the Kuhlman ministry awkwardly but publicly joined hands with the saints of the [youth] movement. Standing among Chuck Smith … Lonnie Frisbee, and Duane Pederson, ‘Mama Kathryn’ displayed an unconcealed eagerness to identify with the movement, … Her attachment to the young movement was unmistakable...” [Enroth et al, The Story of the Jesus People, pp151-152]. ■ “Kathryn
Kuhlman … embraced the Jesus People as they became front page news. Kuhlman
befriended a number of converted hippies from Calvary Chapel [including
Frisbee] and was convinced to do a number of her “I Believe in Miracles”
television shows with them as the main guests” [‘People and Faces’, one-way.org/jesusmovement/index.html]. ■
“I went to a number of those [Kuhlman]
meetings with Lonnie when we lived in the House Of
Miracles and they were nothing short of amazing moves of God’s Spirit. He told
me years later he wanted God to give him her mantle (of power) when she dies”
[aginsurfr, lonniefrisbee.com]. ■ Two testimony tapes from 1969 are of “Young People From
Haight-Ashbury” {} ■
Some relevant videos include: “V202 261 7/22/71 Ad Lib
Statements from Group / Charles ‘Chuck’ Smith (Youth Audience) (Full Audience)
V203 279 11/6/71 The Jesus People; part Kuhlman ==>> MacNutt, F. ■ Kuhlman “exerted a considerable influence
over leading figures in the early, radical, ‘Catholic Charismatic’ movement,
such as Fr. Di Orio and … Francis MacNutt” [www.unitypublishing.com/Hist-of-Char.html]. ■ “[H]ealing prayer was
almost unheard of in most Christian churches. At first it was the Pentecostals
who rediscovered it. Then it was famous ‘faith healers’ like Oral Roberts
[Roberts is a mason – click
here for evidence] and Kathryn Kuhlman” [‘Piercing the
Glass Ceiling’, by Francis MacNutt taken from the Mar/Apr 2003 issue of his
newsletter]. Kuhlman ==>> Pytches, D. ■ Pytches endorses Kuhlman’s methodology and
her “frequent and faithful use of the gifts of healing” [D.Pytches, Come,
Holy Spirit, p118]. He again cites
her positively on p163 of that book. Kuhlman ==>> Wimber,
J. (/Vineyard) ■ “[During the] Late 1960s and early
1970s … [Vineyard’s John] Arnott attends several meetings … led by … Kathryn
Kuhlman. These meetings make a profound impression on Arnott … She [Kuhlman]
and Benny Hinn have been dominant exemplars in Arnott’s spiritual
development. Recalling their impact on Arnott during this period, Arnott’s
future pastor … will later confirm that ‘in significant ways they laid an
imprint for the future direction and conduct of [Arnott’s] ministry’”
[Hilborn, op. cit., pp2-3]. ■ Vineyard leader Bill Jackson promotes Kuhlman [ ■ In his book Power
Healing Wimber writes of Kuhlman that, after his initial puzzlement
regarding her style he has “come to appreciate and learn from her”, p40. ■
INDIRECT: Benny Hinn has stated that Kuhlman was a “TREMENDOUS” influence on
him [The Many Faces of Benny Hinn,
Video: The Door]. MacNutt, Francis [Click here for details of this name - TO
BE DONE] MacNutt ==>> Alpha ■
“I’ve been to Holy Trinity Brompton
several times. The first time was in 1990 … when John Wimber spoke there together
with the ‘Kansas City Prophets’.” [MacNutt, email
on file]. ■
“[I] n the ’70s … We met Sandy Millar around that time, and about ten years ago
I was a speaker at the summer family camp HTB conducts down on the south coast
of England. Several
times I have visited HTB and have the highest regard for their work” [MacNutt, email on file]. ■
“Francis
and Judith MacNutt on ■ POST-1992: MacNutt spoke at HTB on 23rd
and ■ PROBABLY
POST-1992: HTB stocks the book Praying for your Unborn Child by F.
and J. MacNutt. ■ PROBABLY POST-1992: HTB stocks the
book Healing by MacNutt. MacNutt
==>> Bertolucci, J. ■ “The ecumenical non-competitive ‘spirit of
co-operation and sharing’ became evident in July 1977 when an ecumenical rally
was held in ■ POST-1992: “I
had the pleasure off [sic] attending the Charismatic Conference in ■ POST-1992: MacNutt and Bertolucci
were both speakers at the Wisdom 2001 conference, MacNutt ==>> Cain, P. /KCP ■ POSSIBLY POST-1992: Bickle shamelessly cites
MacNutt when he reuses a quote by Teresa of Avila from a book by MacNutt [Growing
in the Prophetic, p231]. MacNutt
==>> Carter-Stapleton, R. ■ “Ruth Stapleton, [is]
the sister of … Jimmy Carter. The priest [MacNutt] visited with Carter and
his sister while in MacNutt
==>> Copeland, K. /Hagin, K. ■ MacNutt was a member of the CBM
alongside Hagin [Dager,
Vengeance is Ours, p126]. ■ POST-1992: “[T]his new
group, “Together 2002,” are mainly Pentecostal, which includes people like Rev.
Jack Hayford (Foursquare Gospel Church), Ken and Gloria Copeland, and Rev. Tom
Trask (head of the Assemblies of God) … Judith
and I feel honored to be invited to this small inaugural meeting” [Healing
News by Francis McNutt, taken from the Mar/Apr 2002 issue,
www.christianhealingmin.org/healingnews2002-2.htm].
MacNutt
==>> Foster, R. /Renovaré ■ MacNutt is quoted
approvingly by Foster [Foster, Prayer, pp226,293].
MacNutt ==>> Kraft,
C. ■
POST-1992: Both men will be speakers at the 2004 Conf. On Formational Counselling to be held at Ashland T.S.
MacNutt
==>> Kuhlman, K. ■
Audio tape “T1084 1970” is of “Dr.
Pereszleny, Father Walters, Father McNutt. 233” Also, video “V351 176 3/18/70” is of
“Father Francis MacNutt. (Dino & Tony).Same as V794” {} MacNutt
==>> Pytches, D. ■ Pytches arguably endorses MacNutt on p148 of
D.Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, but he certainly endorses him on
p195 where two MacNutt books are recommended (both of which were published by
the rather Romish sounding Ave Maria Press).
Pytches also claims MacNutt’s ministry is being “blessed by God” [Ibid,
p276], and he endorses his ministry again on page 163 of the same book. MacNutt ==>> Scanlan, M. ■ POST-1992: MacNutt and Scanlan were
both speakers at the Wisdom 2001 conference, MacNutt ==>> Wimber, J.
(/Vineyard) ■ “We knew John from times we spoke at the
Vineyard in ■ “Wimber endorses McNutt
[sic]” [Goodwin, op. cit., p15]. ■ “Wimber dedicates his Healing
- a Biblical and Historical Perspective Seminar Series to Kelsey and MacNutt,
stating “I would like to express my appreciation to Morton Kelsey and
Francis MacNutt for their valuable insights and information. They have made
a significant contribution in the area of healing” [Goodwin, op. cit.,
p32]. ■ “MacNutt’s book Healing, contributed to John Wimber’s
theology and practice” [Apologetics Index, www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/m00.html]. ■ “We were at a conference in ■ Wimber called MacNutt’s book (entitled Healing)
“A classic!”. ■ In his book, Power healing,
Wimber writes that he studied “the theologies and practices of leaders from different schools of
divine healing” applying what he “learnt from these models to our situation in
the Vineyard Christian Fellowship”. In
the accompanying footnote he writes: “Almost every model I studied offered some
insight into divine healing,…” Amongst the leaders of these “schools” and
“models” he lists are … Francis MacNutt.
[Wimber, Power Healing, pp182, 292-293]. ■ POST-1992: The Vineyard
pastor Bill Jackson, in a ‘Vineyard Position Paper’ on ■ POST-1992: “[At]
the Charismatic Conference in ■ “Wimber cites in his teachings … Francis MacNutt, Roman Catholic charismatic priest, disciple of Agnes Sanford, proponent of inner healing methodologies” [Dager, The Vineyard, p12]. ■
MacNutt is quoted favourably in Wimber’s book Power Healing, p31. Pytches, David [Click here for details of this name - TO
BE DONE] Pytches
==>> Alpha ■ In 1990, David
Pytches and Sandy Millar were co-signatories on a signed statement backing the
KCP [Hilborn, op. cit., p13] ■ POST-1992: Mary Pytches went to HTB
in July 1994 (Focus camp) [Fearon, op.
cit., p17] David
was also there [Ibid, p?{}] ■ POST-1992: “Pytches … was one of the
first to visit ■ POST-1992: Pytches worked with Sandy
Millar on guidelines for handling the TB [Hilborn, op.cit., p56]. ■ POST-1992: That HTB is happy with
Pytches is implied by HTB’s use of Pytches’ endorsement of Alpha [Telling
Others, (Kingsway Publications, 2001), p14]. ■ POST-1992: Mary Pytches spoke at HTB
on ■ POST-1992: David Pytches spoke at HTB
in 1997. {Check HTB’s online tape library} ■ POST-1992: A book by David Pytches is
advertised in Alpha News, Jul - Sep 1999, p32. ■ POST-1992: Several books by Pytches
and/or his wife are stocked by HTB, including Living at the Edge, and Leadership
for New Life. ■ POST-1992: Millar wrote the Foreword
to Pytches 1998 book Leadership For New Life. ■ POST-1994: David Pytches and Sandy
Millar were both speakers at the 1994 New Wine conference in the
Pytches ==>> Fuller Seminary
■ POST-1992:
Fuller sells at least two books by Pytches. ■ See also entry ‘Fuller ==> Pytches’
Pytches ==>> Wimber, J.
(/Vineyard) ■ Wimber admits “David Pytches has also been
involved in the organisation of my
teaching conferences in the ■ Pytches is listed in the ‘Acknowledgements’
for Wimber’s book Power Healing. Sandford, John and Paula [Click here for details of this name] Sandford ==>> Alpha ■ POSSIBLY POST-1992: HTB stocks a book
with a Foreword by John Sandford [{}] Sandford ==>> Kraft,
C. ■ “Kraft, in Defeating Dark Angels, recommends the
[following] Sandford
books: The Transformation of the Inner Man and Healing the Wounded
Spirit by John and Paula Sandford (and also A Comprehensive Guide
to Deliverance and Inner Healing by John and Mark Sandford)”
[http://home.earthlink.net/~johnswitzer/books/DefeatingDarkAngels.html].
Sandford ==>> MacNutt, F. ■ A book
by the Sandfords is recommended at the end of MacNutt’s book Overcome by the
Spirit (Eagle, 1991), p186. ■
POST-1992: “Healing Broken Marriages September 26-27, 2003
Jacksonville, FL A conference co-hosted by Mastering Life Ministries, featuring
Francis & Judith MacNutt and John & Paula Sandford”
[//www.christianhealingmin.org/DMR%20Conference.htm]. ■ POST-1992:
Francis and Judith MacNutt, and John and Paula Sandford, are the only featured
speakers at the "Deepening Marriage Relationships Conference", to be
held "September 26-27 at the Times Union Performing Arts Center”
[//www.christianhealingmin.org/DMR%20Conference.htm]. Sandford ==>> Pytches,
D.
■ Pytches recommends
two J./P.Sandford books [D.Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, pp128,219]. ■ Pytches positively
quotes “J and P Sandford” [D.Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, p257]. Sandford ==>> Wimber,
J. (/Vineyard) ■
“[I]n his
[Wimber’s] books, tapes, and seminars... he includes ... the teachings of
Francis MacNutt, Matthew and Dennis Linn, [AND] John and Paula Sandford” [Randles, Weighed and Found Wanting,
p. {}]. ■ [M]ost people know
the Sandfords for their work in the inner healing movement and their
counselling schools, popular among most
John Wimber affiliated Vineyard churches” [‘John Sandford – The Ecumenical
Prophet’, by Jackie Alnor]. ■ “John Sandford ...
began bringing his seminars to a number of Vineyard
churches worldwide” [Heaven Can't Wait by William M. Alnor, 1996]. ■ In his book, Power healing,
Wimber writes that he studied “the theologies and practices of leaders from different schools of
divine healing” applying what he “learnt from these models to our situation in
the Vineyard Christian Fellowship”. In
the accompanying footnote he writes: “Almost every model I studied offered some
insight into divine healing,…” Amongst the leaders of these “schools” and
“models” he lists are … John and Paula Sandford [Wimber, Power Healing,
pp182, 292-293]. Sanford, Agnes [Click here for details of this name] ■ INDIRECT: At the end of
chapter 5 of his book Searching Issues, Gumbel recommends a volume by
Leanne Payne – who was a “a disciple of Agnes Sanford”
[Al Dager, Special Report: Holy Laughter, (Media Spotlight, 1995),
p14]. Searching
Issues also recommends a book by Leanne Payne, but Payne was a “Disciple of
the late Agnes Sanford” [‘Unholy Laughter’, Dr. Cathy Burns, Part II]. ■ “Ruth Carter Stapleton, was a
disciple of Agnes Sanford” [Dager, The Vineyard, p12]. ■ “…[T]he teachings of
anti-Christian and occultist, Agnes Sanford [were] carried on after her
death by those she influenced, such as lay therapists Ruth Carter Stapleton … ,
Rosalind Rinker, … Rita Bennett, and others” [www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/inheal.htm]. ■ Stapleton “learned ‘inner healing’ from Agnes
Sanford” [The Prophecy Newsletter (1986, Vol. 2, No. 1), p6, as quoted
in Burns, Billy Graham, p353]. ■ “Agnes Sanford ... influenced ... Ruth Carter
Stapleton” [‘David Seamands: General Teachings/Activities’]. ■ “Ruth Carter Stapleton ... studied under Agnes
Sanford” [‘Our Sovereign God’, David Curtis]. ■ “Agnes Sanford has inspired many healing ministries
including those of Francis MacNutt, [and] Ruth Carter Stapleton” [Barnaland
review]. ■ Derek Prince joined Sanford as one of only three speakers at the Camp
Farthest Out (CFO) in Maryville, Tennessee in August of 1967 [Source: Francis
MacNutt]. ■ “Richard Foster,
… [has] freely confessed to being influenced by
faith-healer Agnes Sanford” [Alan Morrison, The Serpent and the Cross,
(K&M Books, 1994), p432]; “Richard Foster … freely acknowledges that his
inspiration for practicing such techniques [of visualization] was the ‘faith
healer’, Agnes Sanford” [Ibid, p456]. ■ See Foster’s Celebration of
Discipline, p25 [cited by Wendy Howard, A Critique On The Ministry Of
Richard Foster, www.despatch.cth.com.au]. ■ Foster calls Sanford a “wonderfully wise
woman of prayer” [Richard Foster, Prayer, (Hodder and ■ “[Renovaré’s] Vasivig [sic]
recalled that his first experience of ‘meditative prayer’ using visualization
was taught to him personally by Episcopalian mystic Agnes Sanford”
[www.seekgod.ca/renovaré] ■ “Vaswig … first learned
meditation from Agnes Sanford, a
pantheist and adherent to eastern mystical concepts” [Al Dager, Media Spotlight
Special Report: Renovaré: Taking Leave of One’s Senses, (1992, 2003),
p8]. ■ “…[T]he
teachings of … Agnes Sanford … [were] carried on after her death by
those she influenced, such as … [Renovaré’s] William Vaswig”
[www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/inheal.htm]. ■ Renovaré’s William Vaswig refers
approvingly to Agnes Sanford in his book I Prayed, He Answered (Augsburg,
1977), pp51-52 and 55-56 [See Dave Hunt & T.A. McMahon, The Seduction of
Christianity (Harvest House Publishers, Eugene, Oregon, 1985), p156]. ■ In
1994, Bill Vaswig said, “Agnes Sanford taught me how to pray, and I taught
Richard [Foster]” [Vaswig said this in conversation with Ray Yungen]. ■ Foster recommends two ■ INDIRECT: Foster cites Glenn Clark
approvingly [Prayer, p282], yet ■ Kelsey says “I am ...
deeply grateful to Agnes Sanford” [Kelsey, Speaking
with Tongues, (The Trinity Press, 1964), pviii]. ■ “Dr. MacNutt … led the healing
movement in the sacramental churches in the 1970’s and 1980’s. His teacher was Ms. Agnes Sanford”
[www.st-tims-church.org/ed3.html]. ■ “Agnes Sanford has inspired many healing ministries
including those of Francis MacNutt, [and] Ruth Carter Stapleton” [Barnaland
review]. ■ “I attended a Camp … in August of 1967. … How
well I remember the three speakers at that life-changing camp!
Tommy Tyson, Agnes Sanford and Derek Prince all became friends and
my mentors in the healing ministry … [I]t was not until Agnes
Sanford, … prayed for a release of the Holy Spirit’s power that I was
baptized in it” [Francis MacNutt, Fire From Heaven,
www.christianhealingmin.org/firefromheaven.htm]. ■ A book by ■ ■ “When Agnes Sandford [sic] prayed over Francis in the
mid-sixties she said that he would be instrumental in bringing back the
healing ministry to the church. Since then, he has authored six books on the
subject of healing” [‘Preparation for Ministry’, by Judith MacNutt, taken from
the April 1995 issue of MacNutt’s newsletter]. ■ Pytches quotes ■ “John
and Paula Sandford, pantheists, and disciples
of Agnes Sanford” [Al Dager, MS Special
Report, The Vineyard, p12]. ■ “Agnes
Sanford who was … a mentor to John Sandford” [Greg DesVoignes,
www.crmspokane.org/transformation1.htm]. ■ “…the teachings of
anti-Christian and occultist, Agnes Sanford … [were] carried on after her death
by those she influenced, such as lay therapists … John and Paula Sandford”
[www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/inheal.htm]. Sanford
==>> Scanlan, M. ■ “Michael Scanlan, …
[is a] disciple of Agnes
Sanford” [Dager, The Vineyard, p13].
■ INDIRECT: ■ INDIRECT: Glenn Clark influenced Wierwille, but ■ INDIRECT: Glenn Clark influenced
Wierwille, yet: “Late in 1945 Dr. Glenn Clark called a conference to be held
near ■ INDIRECT: All the evidence is that ■ INDIRECT: Rufus Moseley influenced Wierwille, but Sanford worked with Moseley: “Agnes
Sanford, Evelyn Underhill, and the late Rufus Moseley, [were] practitioners
within the semi-metaphysical movement called CAMPS FARTHEST OUT”
[http://withchrist.org/vineyard.htm]. It
is also clear from one of ■ INDIRECT: For more evidence
of ■ “Both Agnes Sanford and
Morton Kelsey have drawn heavily from Jung, and John Wimber in turn draws from all three” [John
Goodwin, Wimber the Gnostic, (SMP, 1997), p30]. ■ “Wimber cites in his teachings
Agnes Sanford, pantheist and ‘mother’ of inner healing in the churches … The
methodologies outlined in [Wimber’s training manual on healing] are based on
the inner healing model of Agnes Sanford … Vineyard teams are encouraged to use
the mind-science inner healing techniques of Agnes Sanford, which include
visualization, meditation, and other psychic healing methods” [Al Dager, Media
Spotlight Special Report: The Vineyard: History, Teachings & Practices,
1996, pp7,10,12]. ■ “John Wimber, founder of the
Vineyard movement, enthusiastically promoted her [ ■ INDIRECT: “Wimber cites in his
teachings … Dennis and Rita Bennett, disciples of Agnes Sanford” [Al Dager, The Vineyard, p12]. Scanlan, Michael [Click here for details of this name] Scanlan ==>> Alpha ■ INDIRECT: Scanlan
participated with Michael Harper and Peter Hocken at the ‘North American
Congress’ rallies. Harper and Hocken
have both influenced HTB. ■ INDIRECT,
POST-1992: Scanlan also cooperated with: Arnott, Forrest, and Kilpatrick at
the ‘Celebrate Jesus 2000’ event. These
people have all influenced HTB.
Scanlan ==>> Bertolucci, J. ■ POST-1992:
Bertolucci and Scanlan were both speakers at the Wisdom 2001 conference,
Scanlan ==>>
Foster, R. /Renovaré ■ Included on
Renovaré’s Original Board of Reference is ‘Fr’ Michael Scanlan [Dager, MS
Special Report, Renovaré, p15].
Scanlan ==>>
MacNutt, F. ■
POST-1992: “[Bob] Weiner was a
Speaker at the ecumenical Celebrate Jesus 2000 ... held in ■
POST-1992: MacNutt sells a video
featuring Scanlan and calls it “a comprehensive talk on deliverance. An excellent resource for
those wanting to know more on the subject” [Deliverance resources,
www.christianhealingmin.org/deliverance.htm].
Scanlan ==>>
Pytches, D.
■ Pytches quotes Scanlan approvingly [D.Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit,
p217].
Scanlan ==>> Wimber, J. (/Vineyard) ■ “Wimber cites in his
teachings … Michael Scanlan” [Dager, The Vineyard, p13]. ■ In his book, Power healing,
Wimber writes that he studied “the theologies and practices of leaders from different schools of
divine healing” applying what he “learnt from these models to our situation in
the Vineyard Christian Fellowship”. In
the accompanying footnote he writes: “Almost every model I studied offered some
insight into divine healing,…” Amongst the leaders of these “schools” and
“models” he lists are … Michael Scanlan.
[Wimber, Power Healing, pp182, 292-293]. Schuller, Robert [Click here for
details of this name - TO BE DONE] Schuller ==>> Alpha ■ Gumbel has worked
with Schuller and has held an Alpha conference at Schuller’s Crystal Cathedral
[{}] ■
INDIRECT, POST-1992: HTB stocks Warren
books, yet “Rick Warren admits that Robert Schuller, a man that does not believe
that Jesus is the only way to heaven had a great influence upon him ... Rick
Warren holds conferences to this day with Robert Schuller. During their January
2004 conference at the Crystal Cathedral one of their guest speakers was Paul
Crouch” [Message posted on ■
POST-1992:
INDIRECT: “This past January, Robert
Schuller held his 2005 Leadership Institute conference, a four-day event. … we find it intriguing to see the line up of speakers at this
year’s Schuller event. They include Jack Hayford, …,
Bill Hybels … and Bruce Wilkinson [all of whom have influenced Gumbel]” [LTPC]. ■
INDIRECT, POSSIBLY POST-1992: Crystal Cathedral’s
Juan Carlos Ortiz is cited positively in Gumbel’s book Telling Others, p218 of the 2nd edition. ■
INDIRECT,
POST-1992: Bruce Wilkinson has
influenced HTB, yet “In October of 2003, Bruce Wilkinson spoke at Robert
Schuller’s Crystal Cathedral and said, ‘I want to talk about dreams. Of all
places in the world to talk about dreams this is the place ... because I think
Dr. Schuller is the patriarch, in the work about living your dream’” [LTPC]. ■ INDIRECT: Schuller has worked with Cho, who
has influenced HTB (see below). ■ INDIRECT: HTB promotes Wilkinsons’ book, yet
Wilkinson works with Schuller. ■ INDIRECT: Paul Yonggi Cho is regularly cited
positvely on Alpha, yet Schuller wrote the commendatory foreword to Cho’s 1979
book ‘The Fourth Dimension’ [Morrison
{}].
Schuller ==>> Bertolucci,
J. ■ “Schuller … spoke at
the ‘ Schuller ==>> Branham, W.
■ Branham cites
Schuller positively in his talks [Nathan.co.za]. Schuller
==>> Foster, R. /Renovaré ■ Schuller is referred
to positively in Foster’s book Money, Sex and Power, (Hodder and ■ INDIRECT:
Richard Foster calls
Schuller ==>> Frisbee, L. ■ INDIRECT:
Lonnie was very good friends with Juan Carlos Ortiz of Schuller’s Crystal
Cathedral [telephone conversation with Stan Frisbee]. ■ POST-1992: Lonnie
chose to be buried in the grounds of Schuller’s Crystal Cathedral.
Schuller ==>>
Scanlan, M. ■ “Schuller … spoke at
the ‘Washington for Jesus’ rally on April 28, 1980, with priest … Michael
Scanlon [sic]” [Cloud, www.wayoflife.org/fbns/schullerand.htm].
Schuller ==>> Wagner, C. P. ■ “In his book Leading
Your Church to Growth, Wagner features everyone from the Southern Baptist
Convention to Robert Schuller,….” [Randles, Weighed
and Found Wanting, p75]. ■ “Wagner credits
Robert Schuller’s concept of ‘possibility thinking’ with introducing him to a
whole new dimension of Christian experience. ‘Schuller has helped many people
begin to believe God for great things,’ he writes” [MacArthur, op. cit.,
p180]. ■ “Wagner wrote the
preface to one of Robert Schuller’s books saying, ‘I am personally indebted to
Robert Schuller for much of what I know and teach’” [www.wayoflife.org/fbns/unbeliefat.htm]. ■
POST-1992: “‘Jerusalem Celebration 2000’ ... Church Growth International sponsors
the celebration of Jesus’ birth in
Schuller ==>> Wimber, J. (/Vineyard) ■ Wimber has said that
“Robert Schuller is one of the greatest evangelical proclaimers of the
gospel of this generation” [Healing Seminar Series, Tapes I, II, III
(unedited, 1981), as quoted by Goodwin, op. cit.,
p17]. ■ Schuller’s daughter
was a member of Wimber’s ■ Wimber and Schuller appeared
on TBN together, telling everyone how they had arranged to share the same
burial plot [Scott Shaw, telephone call, Semple McPherson, Aimee
[Click here for details of this name] Semple McPherson ==>> Branham,
W. /LR ■ INDIRECT: One of the earliest Latter-Rainers was Herrick Holt - a leader in Aimee Semple McPherson's
‘Foursquare Gospel’ denomination: “In the fall of 1947, ...
George Hawtin and Percy G. Hunt, joined with Herrick
Holt, a pastor of the North Battleford, ■ Branham is recorded as saying: “That’s what
the ■ Branham is recorded as saying: “[T]his [Angelus] temple
stands today as a memorial [to] a little mother, who felt that down in her
heart that Jesus Christ still lived and reigned, Mrs. McPherson.
She sleeps up in Forest Lawn today, her body, but her gallant soul is at rest
with God: and partings leave behind her, footprints on the sands of time” [WB,
‘Azusa Jubilee’, nathan.co.za]. ■ Branham is recorded as saying: “I can think, Lord, as the
little boy, of reading of Aimee Semple McPherson. And the criticism that
we’s [sic]... would find in the papers sometime, that they said that she
claimed to heal people [i.e. herself]. How we found out how falsely that
was. And we read of, and have heard of the great ones, of Dr. Price [greatly
influenced by Semple McPherson], and of the F. F. Bosworth, and great
saints who lived before this day. They all
looked and prophesied of the day coming when the Church would receive its
manifestation of the Presence of its Saviour among them in greater ways that it
was receiving it then” [WB, ‘What Is The Works Of God?’, nathan.co.za]. Semple McPherson ==>> Cain, P
/KCP ■ POSSIBLY
POST-1992: According
to Bickle, one of the two “most notable” women to have “played a significant
role in the DEVELOPMENT of Protestantism is Aimee Semple McPherson [Growing
in the Prophetic, p209]. Semple
McPherson ==>> Copeland, K. /Hagin, K. ■ “Hagin [positively] … cites … Aimee
Semple McPherson” [Dan McConnell, The Promise of Health and Wealth,
(Hodder and Stoughton, 1990), p69]. ■ INDIRECT: Hagin cites a Foursquare missionary favourably [Hagin, How to Turn Your
Faith Loose, (Kenneth Hagin Ministries, 1968), p4]. Semple
McPherson ==>> ■ INDIRECT: “‘Foundation
Magazine’ for November/December 1986 cites Dr. Hill as listed to speak at the
1987 Inner-City Pastors Conference in Washington, D.C. March 16-19, 1987. Other
featured speakers were charismatics Jack
Hayford, Larry Lea and Bob Mumford”
{ } Semple
McPherson ==>> Foster, R./Renovaré ■ INDIRECT: Renovaré’s board of reference
and speakers have included Jack Hayford [Dave Hunt, The Berean Call, March 2000]. Semple McPherson
==>> Kuhlman, K. ■ “(Kathryn Kuhlman as a young
woman) meticulously studied (Aimee Semple McPherson) ‘taking in every
movement, every song, every dramatic presentation, every altar call’ from the
vantage of the Angelus Temple balcony” [Wayne E. Warner, Kathryn Kuhlman
(Ann Arbor, MI: Servant Books, 1993), p205, quoted by Sandy Simpson and by
www.bibelkreis.ch]. ■ Kuhlman led some meetings at
McPherson’s ■ INDIRECT: “Another anointed
evangelist in the 1920s was Dr. Charles S. Price, who was powerfully met by God
in Aimee Semple McPherson’s meetings in
Semple McPherson ==>> Wagner,
C.P. ■ INDIRECT: CPW is the editor
of a book containing at least one chapter by Jack Hayford from Aimee’s church
[CPW, Ed., Territorial Spirits, (Sovereign World, 1991)]. Semple McPherson ==>> Wierwille,
V. ■ INDIRECT: Wierwille was very heavily influenced
by John Edwin Stiles Snr who had, in turn, been influenced by Aimee Semple
McPherson and her Foursquare church. ■ INDIRECT: Wierwille “says
his quest was finally fulfilled when he spoke in tongues in Tulsa, Okla., under
the ministry of the Rev. John Edwin Stiles Sr. … who … explored the Foursquare
denomination” [Wierwille Borrows by John P. Juedes,
www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/vp_stiles.htm]. Semple McPherson ==>> Wimber, J./(Vineyard) ■ POSSIBLY POST-1992: Vineyard leader
Bill Jackson promotes ASM [The Quest for the Radical Middle, pp27,85]. ■ INDIRECT: Chuck Smith, who founded the church from which
Vineyard came and who was very influential on Wimber, “was originally from the Foursquare
Gospel denomination”, went to a Foursquare Bible school, and was a Foursquare
pastor for SEVENTEEN YEARS [Jackson, op.
cit., pp85,32]. ■ INDIRECT: “Hayford spoke at the 1989 Billy Graham/Lausanne II conference (with
John Wimber, David Yonggi Cho, and Dick Eastman)” { } ■ INDIRECT: “Chuck Smith ... had been raised in the ■ INDIRECT: Benny Hinn’s theme park is due to feature
videos of Aimee Semple McPherson in action. Suenens, Léon Joseph [Click here for details of this name]
Suenens ==>> Alpha ■ INDIRECT: “In
a show of ecumenical unity, he [Suenens] stood before the 50,000 gathered for ■
INDIRECT: HTB has been influenced
by Michael Harper, yet Harper’s “early involvement with the Roman Catholic
Church and Cardinal Suenens was fundamental” [‘ROBBIE LOW INTERVIEWS MICHAEL
HARPER’, //trustshare.com/17OCT96/OC96LOWI.htm]. Suenens
==>> Carter-Stapleton,
R. ■ “ECUMENICAL CHARISMATIC RENEWAL CONFERENCE, Suenens ==>> ■ Suenens was a close associate of the ‘Fort Lauderdale Five’
(FL5): “During a pilgrimage to the Holy Land in 1977, the Council [comprising
the FL5 and a handful of other people] began to enter into relationship
with León Joseph Cardinal Suenens. At their June 1 meeting … Clark and
Martin informed the Council that Cardinal Suenens wanted to enter into a covenantal relationship with … [the
Council]. The Council decided that they should relate to the Cardinal in some ‘significant manner,’ and
that they should work with him and his people as ‘one module.’ The Council
drafted a statement to be read to the Cardinal at their June 2 meeting: … ‘1.
We, as a Council, are committing ourselves to work together with the Cardinal …
2. In each project, headship, authority and method of functions will be
mutually determined by the Cardinal and the Council in the light of the
requirements of each situation.’ [Dager, Vengeance is Ours, pp79-80]. Suenens
==>> MacNutt,
F. ■ MacNutt says:
“Cardinal Suenens told me the pope’s encouragement was the unofficial go-ahead
for the charismatic movement in the Catholic Church.” [James Maciejewski,
‘Priest Healer Speaks At Hospital Meeting’, Georgia
Bulletin, ■
“[I]n
1973 I was among a dozen leaders invited to a private audience with Pope Paul
VI where he gave the unofficial go–ahead for charismatic renewal. (This, of course, was largely accomplished
through the initiative of Cardinal
Suenens, who was like a shepherd and protector of charismatic renewal among
Catholics.)” [‘Back to Our Roots’, by Francis MacNutt, taken
from the Mar/Apr 2002 issue of his newsletter].
Suenens ==>> Pytches,
D. ■ Pytches cites
Cardinal Suenens, without any disclaimer, as having produced material worth
knowing about [D.Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, pp148-9].
Suenens ==>> Wimber, J. (/Vineyard) ■ INDIRECT:
“Some of the hyper-charismatic teachers at the Indianapolis conference were Larry
Lea, John Wimber, C. Peter Wagner, Bob Weiner, Charles Green, Mike Bickle, and
Paul Cain. Also speaking was Tom Forrest, Catholic “evangelist” in charge of
“Evangelization 2000,” an ecumenical world evangelization project administered
directly out of the Vatican. Forrest reports directly
to Cardinal Suenens, who reports to the pope” [Beard, ‘InterVarsity
Christian Fellowship (IVCF), A Fellowship of Neo-Evangelicals’,
www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/ivcf/ivcf.htm]. ■ INDIRECT:
“[Wimber’s
wife, Carol] credits Ralph C. Martin for helping her see the light on charismatic
gifts. Ralph C. Martin is a Roman Catholic member of the Cursillo movement (a
Roman Catholic advocacy group) … Martin co-founded the Word of God community
whose purpose was to save the world and make it predominantly Roman Catholic.
As a member of a secret council in concert with the ‘Fort Lauderdale Five’ of
shepherding infamy, Martin worked in association with Cardinal Suenens” [Dager, The Vineyard, p12]. ■ INDIRECT:
“Ralph Martin influenced Wimber, yet Martin worked closely with Cardinal Leon Joseph Suenens” [www.cephasministry.com/church_and_state_cnp_bios.html]. Teilhard deChardin, Pierre [Click here for
details of this name - TO BE DONE]
Teilhard deChardin ==>> Alpha ■ INDIRECT: Campolo
cites Teilhard positively, and Campolo is an admitted influence on Gumbel {} ■ INDIRECT, POSSIBLY POST-1992: Gumbel approvingly
quotes “psychiatrist Paul Tournier” [Gumbel, Heart of Revival, (Kingsway,
1998), p111, yet Tournier praises Teilhard to the skies in his book ‘The
Adventure of Living’ [see its index].
Teilhard deChardin ==>> Foster,
R. /Renovaré ■ Teilhard is quoted
approvingly by Foster [Richard Foster, Prayer, (Hodder and Stoughton,
2000), p179.] Note that the book first
came out in 1992. ■
A
great deal of space is given over to promoting the writings of Teilhard de
Chardin in the book Spiritual
Classics: Selected Readings for Individuals and Groups on the Twelve Spiritual
Disciplines edited by Richard Foster and Emilie Griffin (both of Renovare). ■ POST-1992:
Foster quotes Teilhard approvingly in his Perspectives magazine, Vol 6,
No. 3 (July 1996). ■ POST-1992: Teilhard
is quoted positively in Foster’s book Streams of Living Water, (Harper
Collins, 1999), p260.
Teilhard deChardin ==>> Jung,
C. ■ “On the small table beside
the chair where Jung was sitting, was a book called The Human Phenomenon
by Teilhard de Chardin ... ‘It is a great
book,’ he said” [www.well.com/user/davidu/jungteilhard.html].
Teilhard
deChardin ==>> Kelsey,
M. ■
Kelsey’s work Companions on the Inner Way: The Art
of Spiritual Guidance praises Teilhard.
[www.creativespirit.net/learners/counseling/docu28.htm]. ■
INDIRECT: Robert May has been influenced by Teilhard, and
May has influenced Morton Kelsey who called his book Cosmic Consciousness
Revisited a “masterful piece of study and research”
[http://web4.integraonline.com/~mrlee/ccrrev.html].
Teilhard deChardin ==>> Sandford, J./P. ■
INDIRECT: Robert May has been influenced by Teilhard, and May has
influenced John Sandford who called his book Cosmic Consciousness Revisited
a “classic in the field” [http://web4.integraonline.com/~mrlee/ccrrev.html].
Teilhard deChardin ==>> Sanford,
A. ■ Sanford quotes
Teilhard glowingly in her book Healing Power of the Bible. {} Wagner, C. P. [Click
here for details of this name] Wagner ==>> Alpha ■ Gumbel refers approvingly to “Church growth expert, Dr.
Peter Wagner” [Nicky Gumbel, The Heart of Revival, (Kingsway
Publications, 1997, p94) and quotes Wagner’s 1986 book Scripture and Church
Growth [Ibid, p209] and Wagner’s other 1986 book Spiritual Power and
Church Growth [Ibid, p207]. Although
Gumbel’s references are in a book which only appeared in 1997 it iss unfeasible
that Gumbel and Wagner should have been so close to each other in 1986 (via
Wimber), yet Gumbel not to have known of Wagner’s 1986 books until nine years
later. ■ POST-1992: That HTB is happy with Wagner is
implied by HTB’s use of Wagner’s endorsement of Alpha [{}] ■ POST-1992: HTB was happy to include an endorsement
by Wagner in their first International edition of Alpha News. ■ POST-1992: a book published in 1994 by Rob Warner
cites Wagner in its bibliography, and Millar wrote the Foreword to the book [Prepared for Revival, (Hodder and ■ INDIRECT: Billy
Graham, an influence on HTB, also endorses CPW [Graham, The Holy Spirit, p177]. Wagner
==>> Cain, P. /KCP ■ POST-1992: Paul Cain is an honorary member of the
APOSTOLIC COUNCIL OF PROPHETIC ELDERS created by Wagner. ■ POST-1992: “In the January
1999 conference held in the World Prayer Centre where Peter Wagner, the
moderator of the conference, spoke … Amongst those present at the meeting were:
Paul Cain, …
[and KCP’s] Mike Bickle…”
[T.Tillin, www.banner.org.uk/res/theglory8.html] Wagner ==>> Foster, R.
/Renovaré ■ “Several well-known and influential leaders
within Christianity are, or have been, involved with Renovaré, including … Jack
Hayford, … Anthony Campolo … J.I.Packer … C. Peter Wagner … ” [Dager, MS
Special Report, Renovaré, p1]. ■ “Renovaré’s board of reference and speakers have
included ... C. Peter Wagner” [Dave Hunt, The
Berean Call, March 2000]. Wagner
==>> Kraft, C. ■ “Charles Kraft, [is] a fellow missiologist with C. Peter Wagner at Fuller Seminary” [www.deceptioninthechurch.com/orrel8.html]. ■ “In Pasadena California on ■ POST-1992: Kraft is on the faculty of the Wagner
Leadership Institute with CPW [www.wagnerleadership.org]. ■ POST-1992: Kraft is a featured author of CPW’s
Wagner Publications company (and both men are contributing editors to the book Ministering
Freedom from Demonic Oppression).
Wagner ==>> MacNutt, F. ■ A Peter Wagner book
is recommended at the end of MacNutt’s book Overcome by the Spirit
(Eagle, 1991), p186.
Wagner ==>> Pytches, D. ■ Wagner is cited as a Christian authority in
D.Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, p79.
Wagner is also mentioned positively on p14 and twice on p238, of the
same book. Wagner ==>> Sandford, J./P. ■ According to John Sandford, Wagner has been a major
influence on him and his wife ever since they met CPW in 1989 [John Loren
Sandford, Healing the Nations, (Monarch, 2000), pp205-6. See also pp22 and 101]. ■ POST-1992: “A recent meeting of ‘APOSTOLIC COUNCIL
OF PROPHETIC ELDERS’ as they style themselves, ‘a select group of prophets who
feel the need to build personal relationships with peer-level prophets’ listed
as members: … John and Paula Sandford, … [and] Peter and
Doris Wagner…” [Tillin, www.banner.org.uk/apostasy/cell-church2.htm]. ■ POST-1992: “MEETING OF THE APOSTOLIC COUNCIL OF
PROPHETIC ELDERS Convened by: C. Peter Wagner. Those in attendance: … John Sandford,
Paula Sandford, .. Doris Wagner, C. Peter Wagner, … Held on: November 28, 2000”
[http://prophecyandcurrentevents.com/thglory/up091201.htm]. (These people are all still members of the
Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders in 2003.) ■ POST-1992: “In the
January 1999 conference held in the World Prayer Centre where Peter Wagner,
the moderator of the conference, spoke … Amongst those present at the meeting
were: John and Paula Sandford…” [Tillin, www.banner.org.uk/res/theglory8.html] Wagner ==>> Wimber, J.
(/Vineyard) ■ “In 1975 … John [Wimber]
enrolled on a church growth course … taught by Prof. Peter Wagner, who
would become a close friend. Wagner’s 1973 study, Look Out! The
Pentecostals are Coming! Has a major
influence on Wimber … Wagner’s work led him [Wimber] into a significant
exploration of spiritual gifts” [Electronic version of: David Hilborn, A
Chronicle of the Toronto Blessing and Related Events, as published by the
Evangelical Alliance (UK), 2001, p6]. ■ “Wimber … began to draw
conclusions based on … the input of C.Peter Wagner…” [Goodwin, op.
cit., p28] ■ “Perhaps the biggest
influence in Wimber’s philosophy is Dr. C. Peter Wagner” [Dager, Vengeance
is Ours, p154] ■ “[B]ooks that influenced [Wimber]
… [included] Look Out! The Pentecostals are Coming by C. Peter Wagner”
[Randles, Weighed and Found Wanting, p75]. ■ “Wimber’s wider scale influence on the body
of Christ began in the mid 70s when … he came into contact with C. Peter Wagner, a fellow professor at
Fuller and known as one of the leaders of the ‘church growth’ movement”
[Randles, Weighed and Found Wanting, pp74-75]. ■ An article by Wagner appeared
in the magazine of Vineyard
Ministries International, September/October 1985 [D.Pytches, Come, Holy
Spirit, p288]. ■ In his
book Confronting the Powers, Wagner calls Wimber “my mentor.” [‘Apostasy’, www.harpazo.net/Apostasy]. ■ Wagner fundamentally influenced Wimber [Mike
Fearon, A Breath of Fresh Air, (Eagle,
IPS Ltd, 1994), p66]. ■ “At Fuller I had the honor of meeting professors like … C. Peter Wagner,…”
[Wimber, Power Evangelism, Revised and Expanded with Study Questions
(San Francisco: Harper Collins, 1992) pp84-85, as quoted in Dager, The
Vineyard, p1]. ■ “In 1982, shortly after taking
over the Vineyard, Wimber returned to Fuller Theological Seminary to co-teach with C. Peter Wagner a course entitled MC:510, ‘The Miraculous and
Church Growth’.” [Dager, The Vineyard, p4]. ■ Wimber quotes C. Peter Wagner positively in
his book Power Evangelism [Dager, The Vineyard, p12]. ■ Wagner is listed in the ‘Acknowledgements’
for Wimber’s book Power Healing. Wierwille, Victor [Click here for details of this name]
Wierwille ==>> ■ INDIRECT: Rufus Moseley worked with Wierwille, yet Moseley also
influenced Don Basham [Basham, Face Up With A Miracle, (Voice Christian Publications, 1967),
pp61-62, 157-8].
Wierwille ==>> Frisbee, L. ■ “It … was Victor
Wierwille who went to the House of Acts in 1968 and gave Ted Wise, … and Lonnie and Connie Frisbee … their
understanding of the Holy Spirit. Wierwille worked miracles, cast out
demons--which he did while teaching them about the Holy Spirit, as well as
teaching them how to speak tongues, all in one night. … Lonnie and
Connie Frisbee and the Wises began taking Wierwille’s PFAL classes…” [‘Wheat
and Tares: Discipling a.k.a. Shepherding Movement Connections’,
www.seekgod.ca/shepherding.htm] ■ “Wierwille visited The Living Room and
The House of Acts several times in 1967 and 1968. Soon several of the
young people began visiting the headquarters of The Way in New Knoxville.” [Bob
Pardon, ‘The Way International - HISTORY’, http://neirr.org/thewayhisttheo.htm] Wimber, John (/Vineyard)
[Click here for details of this name] Wimber
(/Vineyard) ==>> Alpha ■ Wimber and his team visited HTB in
1982. Gumbel has said “A couple of years
later [1982] someone called John Wimber, who is an American pastor, came
… We owe an enormous amount to
the Americans … because it was through John Wimber and his team that many
of the wonderful things that we’ve seen happening in this church in the last 14
years, humanly speaking, it came through them, and at one time, you know, there were some of us who would
only be prayed for if the person had an American accent…” [Alpha Video, Talk
13, Edition 1]. ■ HTB’s Millar writes: “Our experience here started in about 1982 I suppose, when we first came into contact with John Wimber and the Vineyard church ... I went over every year for about four years to California to the Vineyard Conference ... I was totally captivated ... I got really excited ... [When] I came back here ... I was quite difficult to live with for the first three or four months because I had tasted freedom ... I’m deeply grateful to him [Wimber]. I know that ‘John Wimber’ is like a name to conjure with ... [A]ll I know is that we owe him a tremendous debt, he’s a great friend, and we are extremely grateful to him ... If we [HTB] have sought to give away anything, and we have, it’s because we learnt it from them [Vineyard].” [Sandy Millar, audiotape “Worship on Alpha”, (HTB Publications, 1997), side 1]. ■ Wimber visited HTB again in 1983 [John
Irvine, Alpha News, Mar – Jun 2001,
p17] ■ Wimber visited HTB again in Sept/Oct 1984
[Fearon, op. cit., p166] ■ Wimber visited HTB again in November 1986
along with Vineyard’s John McClure. ■ Wimber’s book Power Healing is sold in HTB’s bookshop. ■ Brent Rue of Vineyard spoke at HTB in
October 1990. ■ Two of the three
books on healing recommended in the White (1993) Alpha Manual for attendees
were by Wimber. ■ When
Gumbel was looking for his ‘curacy’ he followed the advice he was given by
Vineyard’s McClure [Focus #161, p21]. ■ POST-1992: Vineyard’s John Mumford
visited HTB in July 1993. ■ POST-1992: Wimber spoke at HTB on ■ POST-1992: Wimber is cited positively
in Gumbel’s book The Heart of Revival, p151; in Gumbel’s book Challenging
Lifestyle, p27; and in Telling Others, p143. ■ POST-1992: Wimber
went to HTB in 1995 and 1996 [see HTB’s tape library]. ■ POST-1992:
Vineyard’s John Arnott visited HTB in October 1994 and again the following year
[HTB’s Focus newspaper, ■ POST-1992:
From at least 1996, if not earlier, the teaching tape sets used by HTB ‘home
groups’ included six talks by Wimber [Alpha News, July 1996, p25]. ■ POST-1992:
Almost a third of all the sections comprising the HTB book The Collection
(HTB Publications, 1996) are by Vineyard leaders. John Wimber is joint top (along with Sandy
Millar) in terms of the number of sections produced. ■ POST-1992:
The work of Vineyard’s Wayne Grudem is loudly praised by Gumbel in his book Challenging
Lifestyle, p265. He also calls a
book by Grudem “masterful” [Telling Others, p46]. ■ POST-1992:
HTB still stocks Wimber’s discredited books Power Evangelism and Power
Healing. (All checks of HTB’s
bookshop were made in late 2003.) And both
books are advertised in Alpha News, #19, p32. ■
POST-1992: Todd Hunter, previously the head of Vineyard, became a leader of Alpha
USA in May 2004. ■
POST-1992: In the winter of 1993, Wimber
(/Vineyard) ==>> Cain, P. /KCP ■ In 1988 “John
Wimber meets … Paul Cain” [Hilborn, op. cit., p9]. “Wimber’s own
account of this meeting with Cain is printed in the Vineyard publication Equipping the Saints, Fall, 1989. Also see
Pytches, Some Said it Thundered, pp.135-36 [etc]” [Hilborn, op.
cit., p12]. ■ Wimber’s intervention in the dispute between
Gruen and KCF led Mike Bickle to “place KCF more directly under the auspices of
the Vineyard network, and to re-name itself Metro Vineyard”
[Hilborn, op. cit., p13]. ■ “Kansas City Fellowship became Metro
Christian Vineyard of ■ “John Paul Jackson [a Kansas City Prophet],
went to work with John Wimber at the Anaheim Vineyard” [Al Dager, The
Vineyard, p16]. ■ POSSIBLY POST-1992: Bickle treats Vineyard’s
Wayne Grudem as a serious influence in the former’s book ‘Growing in the
Prophetic’. See pages 108, . { }
On page 13 he calls Grudem “my friend” and says he “has written
one of the best books on prophecy that I’ve ever come across”. Wimber (/Vineyard) ==>> Foster,
R. /Renovaré ■ John Wimber [was] on Renovaré’s Board
of Reference [http://withchrist.org/MJS/renovare.htm] ■ “Several well-known and influential leaders
within Christianity are, or have been, involved with Renovaré, including … John
Wimber …” [Dager, MS Special Report, Renovaré, p1]. Wimber (/Vineyard) ==>> FullerTS ■ “John [Wimber] … was asked to lead
the Charles E. Fuller Institute of Evangelism and Church Growth. He also later
became an adjunct instructor at Fuller Theological Seminary where his classes
set attendance records” [www.vineyardusa.org/about/history/history.htm] ■ “Wimber’s wider scale influence on the body
of Christ began in the mid 70s when he left the Quaker church to become the
founder and lecturer for the Fuller
Church Growth Institute” [Randles, Weighed and Found Wanting, p74]. Wimber (/Vineyard) ==>> Kraft,
C. ■ Kraft writes: “This failure [wallowing in
unconfessed sin] undermines their spiritual defences, providing what John
Wimber has pictured in a lecture as ‘a runway with lights showing the way
for demons to enter.’” [Charles Kraft, Defeating Dark Angels, (Sovereign
World Ltd, 1993), p72]. ■ Kraft writes: “My point is, I assume that
most of the demons Jesus and his followers encountered in believers were, like
most of those we encounter today, at the lower end of a scale of 1-10. We may picture such a scale like this (with
thanks to John Wimber and Blaine Cook for suggesting the idea): …”
[Kraft, Defeating Dark Angels, p132]. ■ “Another man whom Wimber has influenced is
Charles Kraft, … His book, Christianity with Power, is a virtual
testimonial to the influence of Wimber …” [Randles, Weighed and Found
Wanting, pp79-80]. Wimber (/Vineyard) ==>> Pytches,
D. ■ “Watson has been in touch with Wimber since
1981, and has helped him make a major impact on … St. Andrew’s Chorleywood,
whose Vicar, [is] David Pytches [Bear in mind that Watson died
in 1984]” [Hilborn, op. cit., p7] ■ “When, that autumn [1985], Wimber
returned [to ■ Wimber calls David Pytches “my dear friend
and co-labourer” [Foreword to D. Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, p7]. Wimber goes on: “I visited St Andrew’s [Pytches’
church] originally on Pentecost Sunday 1981 and on my subsequent visits [plural!]
have been encouraged to see how the church has
continued to develop” [Ibid]. ■ Pytches writes: “Any reader who knows
of the pioneer work of John Wimber … will recognize within these pages how great
is our debt to him and to those who have worked with him in producing material
on this subject [i.e. the Holy Spirit]” [D. Pytches, Come, Holy
Spirit, p8]. In the same book,
Pytches recalls: “With ample help from material produced by our American
friend John Wimbler [sic] we cobbled together some studies which have
been used as a basis of our training” [Ibid, p10]. In the same book, see also Wimber/Vineyard
endorsements on pp14-16, 99, 101-2. ■ Pytches recommends Wimber’s book Power
Evangelism [D. Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, p16]. ■ Pytches happily offers a very long testimony
from Vineyard’s Gary Wiens [D. Pytches, Come, Holy Spirit, p95]. Another ‘inspiring’ Vineyard testimony is
given on p252. ■ Pytches states that the “five main values
which undergird our ministry of healing” were “discovered from the [ ■ “When the [Vineyard] team arrived [in 1981],
they went first … to St. Andrews
Anglican in Chorleywood pastored by David Pytches. God turned ■ POST-1992: “No-one has espoused the Wimber (/Vineyard) ==>> Wagner,
C. P. ■ “Wagner’s … admiration for Wimber’s power evangelism
philosophy resulted in his applying to it the term ‘third wave’” [Dager, Vengeance is Ours, p154] ■ “[I]n 1982, Wimber was invited back to
Fuller to teach a course … Peter Wagner became one of its most enthusiastic supporters … Wagner
developed the theory that it, and Wimber’s church, were modeling a ‘Third Wave’
of modern renewal” [Hilborn, op. cit., p6] ■ “In his book Leading Your Church to
Growth, Wagner features everyone from … from John Wimber to John
MacArthur. This is very important for our
understanding of Wimber, for he was greatly influenced by Wagner and vice
versa” [Randles, Weighed and Found Wanting, p75].
The following extra table gives details of HTB’s association with those names that only appear in the above connection data (i.e. that are also interlinked with the names on the chart but who do not actually appear on the chart). This extra table is new and awaiting most of its data. Arnott, John [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE]
Arnott ==>> Alpha ■ POST-1992: HTB described Arnott in 1996 as a “personal friend” of HTB [Elsdon-Dew, Ed., The Collection, p15]. (He was a contributor to this book.)
Bright,
Bill [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE] Bright ==>> Alpha ■ [Documentation is on
its way] Campolo,
Tony [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE]
Campolo ==>> Alpha ■ POST-1992: Tony
Campolo and HTB’s Sandy Millar shared a platform as speakers at “Whatever It
Takes”, Missions Fest 2003, (31 Jan – 2nd Feb), Vancouver, Canada [http://www.mfest.bc.ca/2003_conference/2003_conference_main.html]. ■ Campolo is quoted
approvingly and at length in Gumbel’s book Searching
Issues (Kingsway, 1994 (with amendments)), pp85-86. ■ Millar legitimizes
Campolo [All I Want Is You, (2005),
pp107-8]. Coates,
Gerald [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE]
Coates ==>> Alpha
■ [Documentation is on
its way] Dobson, James [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE]
Dobson ==>> Alpha
■ Gumbel quotes Dobson
favourably in Challenging Lifestyle, p233. Ford, Leighton [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE]
Ford ==>> Alpha
■ [Documentation is on
its way] Forster, Roger [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE]
Forster ==>> Alpha ■ POST-1992: Forster shared a platform with Millar at Wembley in
1995 [MARTIN WROE, ‘Anti-Christ meets match at Wembley’, The Guardian; Freidzon,
Claudio [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE]
Freidzon ==>> Alpha
■ [Documentation is on
its way] Green, Michael [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE] Green ==>> Alpha ■ Michael Green is
more than once quoted favourably by Gumbel in Searching Issues, (1994),
pp39,72.
Likewise in Challenging Lifestyle, (2000), ppp259,267,268. Harper,
Michael [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE]
Harper ==>> Alpha ■ Michael
Harper co-founded the ICC (International Charismatic Consultation) whose first
meeting was in Brighton in 1991 with Raniero Cantalamessa, but “Nicky Gumbel,
pioneer of the Alpha course, said: ‘We have had a long standing admiration and
love for Fr. Raniero. I first heard him speak at a conference in ■ Harper
says “I preached at HTB many years ago and knew John Collins [Millar's
predecessor] well - and am still in touch with him” [Email on file]. Hayford,
Jack [Click here for details of this name]
Hayford ==>> Alpha
■ HTB stocks at least
three Hayford books (e.g. Worship His Majesty). Hinn,
Benny [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE]
Hinn ==>> Alpha ■ INDIRECT: “CBN launched a global evangelism project
(WorldReach) in 1995 with a week of tent “revival” services on the CBN campus.
Oral Roberts [Roberts is a mason – click
here for evidence], James Robison, Robert Schuller, Benny
Hinn and Robertson took turns preaching” - yet HTB worked with Schuller AFTER
this event. ■ INDIRECT: Hinn was enough of an influence on
Wimber as to lead Wimber to ask Hinn to pray for him, yet Wimber has been a
huge influence on HTB. ■ INDIRECT: John Paul Jackson has been a serious
influence on HTB, yet he has also appeared on Hinn’s TV show. ■ INDIRECT: John Arnott has been a major
influence on HTB, yet Hinn was one of Arnott’s premier mentors. Hybels,
Bill [Click here for details
of this name – TO BE DONE]
Hybels ==>> Alpha ■ HTB stocks many
books by Bill Hybels including Becoming a Contagious Christian, The
God You’re Looking For, Who You Are When No-one’s Watching, Making
Life Work, and Too Busy not to Pray. ■ Bill Hybels is
honoured on page 91 of Gumbe’ls book Telling Others (Kingsway, 2001). ■ Hybels spoke at HTB
in early 2005 [Focus #158]. Jones,
Bryn [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE]
Jones ==>> Alpha
■ [Documentation is on
its way] Kilpatrick, John [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE]
Kilpatrick ==>> Alpha
■ Kilpatrick works
with HTB. ■ In his book The
Heart of Revival, Gumbel refers glowingly to Kilpatrick’s Pensacola
“revival” (p51), quotes Kilpatrick favourably (p212) and again, and at length,
(pp170-172) using three quotes from him in quick succession. ■ Kilpatrick’s book When the Heavens are Brass
is stocked by HTB. ■
INDIRECT: HTB stocks a book by Michael L. Brown of Brownsville AoG. Packer, J.I. [Click here for details
of this name – TO BE DONE]
Packer ==>> Alpha ■
[Documentation is on its way]
■ Stott, John [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE]
Stott ==>> Alpha
■ Stott is quoted
twice by Gumbel in Challenging Lifestyle, p268. Wallis, Arthur [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE]
Wallis ==>> Alpha ■ Wallis is cited happily
by Gumbel in his books The Heart of Revival, p106 (see also p208, 210,
212), and in Challenging Lifestyle, p256. Watson,
David [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE]
Watson ==>> Alpha
■ Watson is quoted
very favourably by Gumbel [Searching Issues, p27]. ■
Watson is cited unquestioningly in Gumbel’s book 30 Days, p125. ■ Watson’s book I Believe in the Church is the only item
of recommended reading on Session 10 of Alpha. ■ Watson’s book Fear No Evil is one of the three books
‘For Further Reading’ at the end of chapter 1 of Gumbel’s book Searching Issues. Yonggi-Cho, Paul (David) [Click here for
details of this name – TO BE DONE]
Yonggi-Cho ==>> Alpha ■ Gumbel is clearly a
fan of Cho. See Gumbel’s The Heart of
Revival, pp181-2, and Challenging Lifestyle, p157 ■ POST-1992:
HTB described Cho in 1996 as a “personal friend” of HTB [Elsdon-Dew, Ed., The
Collection, p15]. A section of the
HTB book The Collection is given over to quoting (unquestioningly) parts
of a talk Cho gave at HTB. In the
‘Biographies’ section of the book, Cho is described thus: “Leader of the
world’s largest church in Seoul, Korea, Pastor Cho is a leading authority on
prayer and has written several books on the subject” [Ibid, p11]. ■ POST-1992: Cho shared a platform with Millar at Wembley in 1995
[MARTIN WROE, ‘Anti-Christ meets match at Wembley’, The Guardian; Here is
an example of what happens when several of them get together: “North American
Congress on the Holy Spirit & World Evangelization. This editor
attended two of the meetings with press credentials: Further
relevant information: “Speakers at the ecumenical Celebrate Jesus 2000 held in St. Louis, Missouri, June 22-25, 2000 included: Rev. Jack Hayford, Babsie Bleasdell/Rev. Steve Hill, Rev. Pat Robertson, Fr. Tom Forrest, Fr. Bob DeGrandis, Rev. Ted Haggard, Fr. Michael Scanlan, Rev. John Kilpatrick, Cindy Jacobs, Francis MacNutt, Rev. John & Carol Arnott, Rev. Vinson Synan and many more” [www.cephasministry.com/state_of_the_union_cnp_w-z_bios.html]. “Other large gatherings included the ‘Jesus ’81 Rallies’ and Billy Graham’s International conference, ‘Amsterdam ’83,’ attended by Pat Robertson, Robert Schuller, Dr. Paul Cho, and Bill Bright, among others” [http://users.stargate.net/~ejt/founda1.htm]. “Rick Warren [spoke in] July 2005 at the Baptist World Alliance with Tony Campolo and Jimmy Carter” [LTPC]. If this data table has been a serious help to you, we'd love to
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