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Biography for Lonnie Frisbee
PLEASE NOTE:
The following is merely a limited collection of useful but essentially
random facts on the subject in question. This document is not
intended to be taken as an in-depth, or exhaustive, or definitive
treatment.
CONCERNING LONNIE
FRISBEE
By Scott Shaw
It should be noted that
the Vineyard Anaheim always claimed they received their “gifts” from
Lonnie Frisbee. Frisbee
received his “call” while high on LSD, and he had a deerskin coat
which supposedly had an anointing on it. Shamans around the globe get in
touch with the spirit world (i.e. demons) via drugs and animal-skin coats.
(One of the words that Scripture translates into “sorcery” is the word
from which we derive “pharmaceutical”.)
It’s interesting that
Chuck Smith Jr. has said, “Lonnie’s misfortune is he got
caught, because there are a lot of charismatic homosexual ministers
– right now…”
Chuck Smith Jr’s comment is particularly intriguing since Smith
himself was the individual who “outed” Frisbee to John Wimber.
(When I asked a friend who attended some of Frisbee’s meetings in
the 1980’s about Lonnie’s sexual predilections, I was told “Ah, he
was a babe-magnet! The women were after him. Remember that real
Pentecostal gal we went to Rod and C.C.’s with for Bible study? She
complained he [i.e. Frisbee] hit on her and felt her breast”.)
I would invite anyone to
compare Vineyard “gifts” (which they claim were released through
Frisbee) to the gifts of the Holy Spirit as found in Scripture. Vineyard
“gifts” are not those of the Holy Spirit, but rather resemble those
found in Kundalini yoga, Reiki, things practiced in the
Far East
. John Wimber regularly told his congregation they needed a “paradigm
shift” and needed to think about spiritual things like people in the
East (meaning
Asia
). And when your congregation is being taught to learn gifts, and
“transfer” anointing as pagans do, I suppose it’s appropriate to
look toward cultures with which your gifts are associated, rather than to
the Bible.
Frisbee’s foray into
homosexuality wasn’t a “slip” or a “one night stand”.
Chuck Smith Jr. “outed” Frisbee to John Wimber after Smith had
received a call from a pastor who had taken the confession of a young man
who had had a six-MONTH relationship with Frisbee (who gave the Vineyard their gifts;
the Vineyard in turn released their gifts via Eleanor Mumford (on staff at
VCF Anaheim) to Holy Trinity Brompton).
I have a friend who literally fell to the floor “under the
power” that was on Lonnie Frisbee’s deerskin coat.
One might argue that Old Testament prophets had holy objects, but
these were a prefigure of Christ whereas Lonnie’s gifts were akin to
those found in the occult (shamanism) and there is no evidence at all that
any of the Old Testament prophets were living actively bi-sexual lives,
seducing males into sexual relationships.
That same ‘power’
would show up at Vineyard Anaheim evening services on Sunday at the old
Vineyard building. It was
called ‘The Afterglow’. It
would manifest at the area in front of the podium.
You could approach it and literally be knocked to the floor, without
experiencing a hard fall. It
was as if you had landed on air cushions. You could momentarily lose
consciousness and be in an altered state of pure ecstasy.
Upon rising you would be aware you were numb from the neck down.
(In the U.S. the word ‘afterglow’ is used to refer to the
feeling after a sexual climax [ironic, given that Wimber was after
intimacy with God even though we are not yet married to Christ and are
supposed to be spiritually chaste (2 Cor. 11:2).])
Like Lonnie Frisbee,
Jonathan Hunter (who heads 'Desert Streams', a “gay-to-straight”
ministry at the Anaheim Vineyard) had his ‘call’ given to him while he
was high on some PCP which he stole from a friend.
Hunter claims to have received Christ and continued in the gay life
until this experience during psychosis from an Angel Dust overdose.
(Paul Cain, the Vineyard prophet, was recently ‘outed’ as a
homosexual and an alcoholic.) Hunter
is said to be HIV+. Gifts of
the Spirit are given to those who repent and receive Christ, NOT to those
who have ‘experiences’ while on drugs.
However, shamans DO have these gifts and regularly take drugs to
induce ‘vision quests’ in which they encounter the spirit world.
Where was the ‘man of God’ to rescue Lonnie Frisbee from
deception? Instead he was used
for ‘church growth’ and poisoned the flock.
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Even his biggest fans,
like David di Sabatino, are forced to admit that "Yes, ... he could
be a ... prickly character", yet if he was full of the TRUE Holy
Spirit he would be a graceful, gentle, charitable, patient character.
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David Di Sabatino's paper (p. 4) contains
an interesting quotation from a tape of Lonnie Frisbee's Testimony
(Anaheim: Vineyard Ministry International: Tape 003): "I was a
nudist-vegetarian-hippie when the Lord called me. I was going into the
desert, taking off all of my clothes and I'm saying, 'God, if you're
really real, reveal yourself to me.' One afternoon the whole atmosphere of
this canyon started to tingle and change. The Lord identified himself to
me and said, 'I'm Jesus. I build nations and I tear them down. It is
better for a nation to have never known me than to have known me and
turned their back from me.' I thought all roads led to Rome, but He
explained to me that He was the only way to know God. I accepted Him and
He said, 'I am going to send you to the people.' Then, he gave me a vision
of thousands of people and they were wandering around in a maze of
darkness with no direction or purpose for their lives. He showed me that
there was a light on me that He was placing on my life . . . and that it
was Jesus Christ and I was going to bear the Word of the Lord."
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