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One of my maternal great-great-great-grandmothers was Mary Hogben (1804-63). She was born at Lyminge, the fifth child of Robert (1771-1857) and Sarah (1773?-1809).

Mary married Frederic VALDER at Lyminge in 1839. They had four children there but only their three sons survived. Mary had previously been married to a Mr TAYLOR, they had a daughter, Catherine, born in 1832/3 somewhere in Ireland. I have been unable to find any details about Mr Taylor and have not found Catherine after 1851.

Robert (1771-1857) and Sarah Hogben had six children at Lyminge from 1798, I suspect that they also had an earlier son, Robert, but it is not known where he was born. Sarah died two years after having their last child, I expect this was due to a further pregnancy. Sarah's origins are not known, there is no marriage for Robert at Lyminge or Elham. IGI coverage for this part of Kent is very poor. Two of Robert and Sarah's daughters died as babies. Nothing is known of what became of Henry Hogben (1798-?), their oldest son baptised at Lyminge.
Their other surviving daughter, Ann Hogben (1799-aft.1881), married James STANDFORD in 1824 but he died in 1834 after they had two children. I am in snail-mail contact with a descendant of one of these Standfords. Ann had an illegitimate child, Emma Standford, in 1840. She then married Nicholas HOGBEN, who I suspect may have been Emma's father. Nicholas was 18 years younger than Ann, the largest age gap I have found for a woman older than a man. Not surprisingly they then lied about their ages in the census returns. Ann's father Robert Hogben was living with them in 1851, it was quite a surprise to see that Ann ended up with the same surname again. Nicholas was a member of one of the other two Hogben lines to be found at Lyminge. These three lines were completely separate for at least 300 years. The lines that Robert and Nicholas came from were generally carpenters, the other Hogben line at Lyminge was land-owning.
Robert and Sarah's other known son, William Hogben (1802-66), married twice. His first marriage was in 1828 to Mary Elizabeth PHILPOTT (1801?-43), the second was in 1845 to Harriot PHILPOTT (1813-73), it is not known whether his wives were related. William had three children with Mary: William (1830 - died aged 5 weeks), Mary Ann (1833-?) and Henry (1836-7). William and Harriot had two daughters, Maria (1845-1917) and Matilda Jane (1848-1902), neither married, both remained in Lyminge.
Another William Hogben (b1808, probably son of an earlier Nicholas & Ann) of Lyminge also married a Mary (née HARROLD - her mother was Elizabeth, née PHILPOTT) and they had a William who also lived for only 5 weeks in 1830, they then had a Mary Ann in 1836 but she had a twin, John Harrold Hogben. I think the only explanation for the confusing name and date similarities is that they did it deliberately! This William and Mary had Emma Standford, illegitimate daughter of Ann, living with them in 1841. This William was probably the brother of Nicholas Hogben, the second husband of Ann and this suggests that Emma may have been Nicholas's daughter. Both William Hogbens were carpenters, the same profession as Robert. I fully expect you to be confused!.

Robert Hogben's origins were hard to establish. Like all the Hogbens of his generation living at Lyminge in 1851 he said that he was born at Lyminge. I was baffled to find that there were no Hogben baptisms at Lyminge for 1765-1785. Hogbens occur in every other year, in most years it was the most common surname in the register. Eventually I thought of looking at the registers for Elham which is only a short distance north of Lyminge. This gave me Robert and his eight siblings, children of Edward Hogben (1733-82) and Mary DOWNE (1733?-1802). Edward and Mary married at Elham in 1756. The fate of two of their sons, John Hogben (1758-?) and Henry Hogben (1767-1843) is not fully known but their other two sons, William and George, had families at Lyminge.
William Hogben (1762-1830) married Kezia (1767?-1847). They had 14 children at Lyminge but over half did not survive. The only survivor known to have had a family at Lyminge was Edward Hogben (1786-1862). William and Kezia moved to Smarden by the time they died so there may be descendants in that area. Edward married Mary CODHAM at Lyminge in 1808 and they had eight children, most of whom had families. Their descendants make up most of the Hogbens of this line at Lyminge in the 19th century. Common names here are William, Henry, George and Thomas. The later ones tended to move to Elham.
George Hogben (1769-1849) married Mary DUNN (1772-1831) at Lyminge in 1795. They had seven children, three died as babies. Only one of the others, Robert (1805-79) had his own family. He married Harriet WHITEHEAD (1820-?) in 1844 and they had 11 children at Lyminge, only four are known to have had children in the area.

I have not been able to establish the origins of my ancestor Edward Hogben (1733-82) for certain. Recently a helpful email contact has sent me details of the MI at Lyminge for Edward and Mary. This confirmed that Edward was of Lyminge and that the burial date I had found in the Lyminge register was the correct one. The MI also gave me Mary's death date and named all nine of their children. Edward's age at death strongly points to him being baptised at Lyminge in February 1732/3, the son of William and Ann (née ELGAR).

William married Ann ELGAR at Lyminge in 1730. They only seem to have had two children, Edward in 1732/3 and William in 1735. I suspect that William senior died at an early age in 1739, Ann may have died in 1774. More speculation leads to the possibility that William may have been baptised at Lyminge in 1703, son of Edward and Catherine. I have absolutely no proof of this!

Lyminge church taken by Tom Page. Thanks to Martin Quarrington for authoring the old Kent Family History Society web page where I found the pictures. The new KFHS web site does not contain these pictures but if I find them elsewhere I'll put the URL here.
Researching my Hogben line involved collecting all the Hogbens at Lyminge and in the immediate area. Hogben is locally a very common name - it's the equivalent of Smith in south-east Kent! It was impossible to sort them out without having all the available information from the parish registers and the 19th century censuses.

I established that there were three separate Hogben lines at Lyminge. Only mine is described on this page but I do have details of the other two lines. I believe I have managed to assign all of the 18th and 19th century Hogbens to their correct lines, the earlier ones are more difficult.

During the course of my research I also collected all the Hogben census findings for the area around Lyminge and the IGI entries for the nearby villages. I have all the available parish registers on fiche for Lyminge and also some for Elham and Acrise. Please contact me if you think your Hogbens came from within about eight miles of Lyminge, I may be able to help.

For Hogbens from other parts of Kent and descendants world-wide there are many other links on Mark Hogben's website

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